Which Regional? (ORD)

slough

Well-Known Member
#21
CNs are mostly caused by people not understanding the PBS software or how to bid for their seniority.
If you are a junior captain in a CRJ base you can't avoid CN's. With the majority of the month as coverage dates your bid goes out the window and PBS assigns trips over your coverage dates as well as CNs.
 

Rodger Wilco

Well-Known Member
#22
An otherwise positive post, I take exception to the bold, underlined, italic part:
Could you drink a beer on the other 18 days? A reserve period not called, is still a day of work.

I've heard some really poopy QOL as of late with Skywest.

Is it true, that you can be awarded a schedule, only to have it erased and replaced with the "company needs" schedule, before your bid is finalized?
You can get "CN'ed" or "Company Need" schedule if PBS cannot build you a complete line (76 credit hours) with the options you gave it.

It gives you 7 layers to mix and match your own schedule, plus a bunch of room for "standing bids" (example MAX WEEKENDS OFF)

Most people getting "CN'ed" are people with very little seniority and they bid for only really good trips. Well of course they are going to be COMPANY NEEDED to work something! This is a misunderstanding of seniority and PBS.

PBS won't throw your schedule out, it will give you what you ask for until you are done asking, then it will fill in the gaps (to 76 credit hours) with whatever is leftover, and generally the leftovers are not too good.
 

slough

Well-Known Member
#23
You can get "CN'ed" or "Company Need" schedule if PBS cannot build you a complete line (76 credit hours) with the options you gave it.

It gives you 7 layers to mix and match your own schedule, plus a bunch of room for "standing bids" (example MAX WEEKENDS OFF)

Most people getting "CN'ed" are people with very little seniority and they bid for only really good trips. Well of course they are going to be COMPANY NEEDED to work something! This is a misunderstanding of seniority and PBS.

PBS won't throw your schedule out, it will give you what you ask for until you are done asking, then it will fill in the gaps (to 76 credit hours) with whatever is leftover, and generally the leftovers are not too good.
When 20 days of the month are coverage dates, PBS will for all practical purposes throw out your bid and cover those dates.
 

word302

Well-Known Member
#24
If you are a junior captain in a CRJ base you can't avoid CN's. With the majority of the month as coverage dates your bid goes out the window and PBS assigns trips over your coverage dates as well as CNs.
Again, if you are repeatedly getting CNed then you don't understand how to bid at your seniority.
 

Yakob

Grand Prognosticator Nominee
#33
Is XJT not an option at ORD anymore or is still a crap show?
Right now XJT appears to be a sinking ship. Of course Endeavor looked like a sinking ship 3 years ago and now they're arguably the best regional, which is an example of how volatile the regional airline industry is.

Still, it looks like SkyWest, who owns XJT plans to slowly shut then down and only add new airframes to OO itself, and much of XJT's feet is being retired or redistributed to other regionals (the ERJs my employer is adding are coming from XJT).

In my class at C5 there was a "refugee" from XJT and he didn't have much good to say about their future prospects.
 

tcco94

Professional GTA V Pilot
#34
Had quite a few Envoy pilots tell me Skywest has shrunken their ORD flying. FWIW, I'd definitely talk to someone over there. Lots of guys on reserve for a long time (on the 145 that I know of).

Anyways with the way Skywest is at ORD I couldn't imagine picking any other regional....that is if domicile is your biggest attribute. Not as much money as an FO than some of the others but good QOL, easy to get out of training, and about a 2 yr upgrade on the CRJ for ORD as well.

My 2 cents.
 

podrick

Well-Known Member
#37
Had quite a few Envoy pilots tell me Skywest has shrunken their ORD flying. FWIW, I'd definitely talk to someone over there. Lots of guys on reserve for a long time (on the 145 that I know of).
It's picking up back now this month as skywest crj flying for AA in ord is being cut back. Current reserve time to hold a line in ORD on the 145 is ~1 month.

Things are pretty fluid right now, upgrade dropping down to less than one year on the last bid and increased flying in ORD has created a lot of movement. Last upgrade to be awarded for ORD had less than one year seniority on this last bid.
 
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Zondaracer

Well-Known Member
#39
Had quite a few Envoy pilots tell me Skywest has shrunken their ORD flying. FWIW, I'd definitely talk to someone over there. Lots of guys on reserve for a long time (on the 145 that I know of).

Anyways with the way Skywest is at ORD I couldn't imagine picking any other regional....that is if domicile is your biggest attribute. Not as much money as an FO than some of the others but good QOL, easy to get out of training, and about a 2 yr upgrade on the CRJ for ORD as well.

My 2 cents.
It doesn't help that Envoy is transferring their CRJs to PSA. I see more and more "bluestreak" at Terminal 3 now. But 12 CRJ200s for AA are coming off contract and going to the UAX side very soon. It all ebs and flows.
 

tcco94

Professional GTA V Pilot
#40
It doesn't help that Envoy is transferring their CRJs to PSA. I see more and more "bluestreak" at Terminal 3 now. But 12 CRJ200s for AA are coming off contract and going to the UAX side very soon. It all ebs and flows.
The 200s are already offline I'm pretty sure. 2 staying in ORD and 10 in DEN last I saw. DEN not so senior on the FO side anymore.
 
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