What do you need to rack up Flight time?

Embark

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My enlistment in the Marine Corps is almost up. So I have been trying to think of what I am going to do when i get out. I am working on my PPL right now and should have it completed before my EAS.

So here is my problem. Should I take out loans for the 35 thousand dollars it is going to cost to go to one of these flight academies and get all my ratings at once. Then use my Mongomery GI bill to pay for a local college back home and try to CFI and go to school at the same time.

OR should I just go to one of the 4 year College Programs that some schools offer and get my ratings more slowly but would probably be able to cut my out of pocket expenses a bit?
 

mtsu_av8er

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OR should I just go to one of the 4 year College Programs that some schools offer and get my ratings more slowly but would probably be able to cut my out of pocket expenses a bit?

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There's your ticket. Read my reply to your last post, and you'll see what I was talking about.
 

Redbirdfan

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If a career in aviation is your goal, do the specialized 4 year degree. The reason is this: a place like ERAU or UND has great internship oppurtunities, and the quickest way to the right seat of a regional airline is to do an internship with them. If you don't do the internship, then your degree in aeronautics is worth about as much as a degree in hotel management...
 

jtrain609

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Ahh...there's someone on this forum getting his degree in hotel managment as a backup. Recommend you bash another, actually useless degree such as philosophy.
 

mtsu_av8er

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Now, now...they're all equally worthless if your only motivation for going to school is to get an airline job.

If you're going to school to learn, however, a degree in philosophy is worth just as much as a pre-med degree or an aviation degree!!

Stop getting so defensive, everyone!!!
 

TheShortOne

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aw common, we're all kidding...i like my anthro degree! (i'm not heading to aviation btw) and its interesting! much better than when i was in engineering...
 

Redbirdfan

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No offense intended chief. How about Pool management, anyone getting a degree in that, or can I rip on it with impunity?
 

stultus

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Now, now...they're all equally worthless if your only motivation for going to school is to get an airline job.

If you're going to school to learn, however, a degree in philosophy is worth just as much as a pre-med degree or an aviation degree!!

Stop getting so defensive, everyone!!!

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Actually we were just kidding...sorry. Need more
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Though actually, I work in higher ed and do have what is generally considered to be the most useless of all degrees, a Liberal Arts Degree (the classes I took broke down into a double major in Phil and Math with a Minor in Theology--or something like that).

I can make a strong case for the "true" liberal arts (as opposed to the courses underwater basket weaving, feminist poetry of the middle ages in sub-saharan Africa, and the like (or I should say, the vastly unlike) that are included under the ubiquitous title of liberal arts at most schools.)

This case can be summed up very succinctly in something Robert Maynard Hutchins (he was the president of the University of Chicago) once said:

“The liberal arts are not merely indispensable; they are unavoidable. Nobody can decide for himself whether he is going to be a human being. The only question open to him is whether he will be an ignorant, undeveloped one, or one who has sought to reach the highest point he is capable of attaining. The question, in short, is whether he will be a poor liberal artist or a good one.

“The liberal artist learns to read, write, speak, listen, understand, and think. He learns to reckon, measure, and manipulate matter, quantity, and motion in order to predict, produce, and exchange. As we live in the tradition, whether we know it or not, so we are all liberal artists, whether we know it or not. We all practice the liberal arts, well or badly, all the time every day. As we should understand the tradition as well as we can in order to understand ourselves, so we should be as good liberal artists as we can in order to become as fully human as we can.”

And you ask, why is this important? I think a lot of pilots that are disgruntled have not thought about this. Those guys who said "I want it NOW and I'll take whatever shortcut I can to attain the nirvana of airline pilot." They forget that they are men first, and pilots somewhere else down the line--and as such they need to be educated. The thought that: once I become a flight instructor [regional FO, regional CA, corp pilot, major airline FO, major airline CA, 747-400 CA, what have you] I will be happy--that is my calling in life; is a thought that is only to lead one ultimately to frustration and disappointment.
 

montanapilot

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then your degree in aeronautics is worth about as much as a degree in hotel management

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*koff koff koff. actually a degree in Hotel Management is quite practical. just look at someplace like Vegas, Anaheim, or Orlando.


but to answer embarks question. I would try to go to school for something else, cause you never know about furloughs, medicals, or terrorists.
 

Wm226

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then your degree in aeronautics is worth about as much as a degree in hotel management

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They are two different degrees in my eyes... with or without the internship.
 

fly22

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then your degree in aeronautics is worth about as much as a degree in hotel management

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*koff koff koff. actually a degree in Hotel Management is quite practical. just look at someplace like Vegas, Anaheim, or Orlando.


but to answer embarks question. I would try to go to school for something else, cause you never know about furloughs, medicals, or terrorists.

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Oh yah, some day I want to run a Motel 6. Screw flying and seeing the world.

Its all about free shampoo and conditioner.
 

EatSleepFly

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Are most 4-yr. degrees really useful without some experience in the given field?

I mean, just having a psychology degree isn't going to allow you to become a psychologist the day after you get furloughed.

Personally, it was a tradeoff for me. If I had gone to school for something that I wasn't remotely interested in, I would probably have screwed off and accomplished nothing. Instead, I went for something that interested me, and I've been pretty successful so far.

So what do I have to fall back on if I lose my medical? Probably the same things as Joe Schmoe with his basketweaving degree.
 

davetheflyer

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What do you need to rack up Flight time?

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I'd go for the college degree and FBO flying. That's the route I took. You might want to consider going somewhere with connections for a CFI and Commercial Multi, but for the basic private, time building, and maybe even instrument go FBO.

I would stay away from aviation degrees. There are an awful lot of airline pilots who wish they were qualified to do something else.
 

DE727UPS

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Make max use of your VA benefits, too, however that works best. I don't think you can do a part 61 program and get VA benes.
 
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