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Trump Budget Proposes to Defund EAS

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by hook_dupin, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. hook_dupin

    hook_dupin Well-Known Member

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    NovemberEcho Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't the EAS serve a lot of those rural, red states that voted Trump?
     
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    hook_dupin Well-Known Member

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    To be completely fair, EAS also does not serve many (most?) of the communities that predominately voted for Trump. To me, the standard of "Did your community have air service in 1978 before airline deregulation?" seems rather arbitrary for subsidized airline service today.
     
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    Well there goes my jerb.
     
  5. NickH

    NickH Dank Meme

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    Hopefully shovels the money toward rail. Improving the already pretty darn good freight rail system is the best thing this country can do for transportation infrastructure.
     
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    That's a lot of red

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    In his budget proposal just released, Amtrak at least is getting a budget cut, and given how much republicans fought federal funding for high speed rail in NJ, FL, and CA I don't see that happening
     
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    NickH Dank Meme

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    Passenger rail is worthless for anything but the coasts. High Speed Rail in California is just part of Feinswine's corruption. The freight system is where it's at, with massive benefits for the road system.
     
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    The only reason it's worthless is because we don't have a good passenger rail system. I can see an argument of it not being worth the cost for north/south rails in the middle of the country, but north/south on the coasts and even the edges of the Midwest could be very useful, along with cross country systems as well.
     
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    America is too big for large scale rail service. It works in Japan, with a population density of ~330 per sq km. In the US...it's 32, or 1/10 as dense.

    It's only popular in China because the country is throwing oodles of money at it, and they are just ghost trains.

    I support ending EAS. Many, MANY articles have been written about the actual cost of flying people on EAS routes. Some I have read approach $10,000 per flight per person. Absolutely ridiculous.

    The US spent half a trillion more in 2016 then it collected in taxes. In a perfect world everyone would get free money and unlimited resources. But choices need to made. EAS or healthcare? EAS or border protection? Etc.
     
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    LA-NY is about 2400 miles. At non-stop 160mph that's a 15 hour journey. Better than the 90 some hours it would take currently with AMTRAK, but still, no one is going to do that.

    N-S on the coasts could work, at least in some parts. But not when it means paying Feinswine $82M per mile.
     
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    Plus, on a train you pretty much have to stop at major cities. It'll go through Philly, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago, KC, Albuquerque, and Phoenix and that is just the bigger cities.
     
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    Yes, and you can't do 160mph through unguarded crossings. The investment required is vast, even before paying off the politicians. That money could be spent improving freight rail, where even a fraction of the amount goes much further, with drastic improvements to road systems as a result.
     
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    All is see is green, and greener?
     
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    High speed rail is Moonbeams pet project. But still, screw Feinswine.
     
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    I would imagine the days of crazy subsidies on bypass mail are probably in their twilight also. Keeping the "bypass" and just paying standard mail rates would save 10 of millions every year.
     
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    Roger Roger Navajo Whisperer

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    Cue all the "subsistence" communities crying about the lack of donuts and Dominoes.
     
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    Try pop and chips.
     
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    Roger Roger Navajo Whisperer

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    Funny the difference in what's popular out west vs here.
     
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