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Steve O1?

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by AAPalmTree, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Crop Duster

    Crop Duster UNSUB

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    It's a pretty common line. Some probably really mean it, but I suspect most who utter it do so precisely because they are not currently flying for an airline.
     
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  2. Baronman

    Baronman Well-Known Member

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    Sure some. But watching his videos and having sent him an email or two I don't think this applies to him. (He's got Saab 340 time by the way.) Watch a few of his videos and he's clearly a capable pilot (and good dude). Unless he has some crazy DWI record I don't know of, he could be at any number of airlines right now.
     
  3. Baronman

    Baronman Well-Known Member

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    The point appeared to be that eventually we all want to be airline pilots. But thanks for the life lesson.
     
  4. Crop Duster

    Crop Duster UNSUB

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    I have zero knowledge of the guy and was not commenting on anyone in particular.
     
  5. MidlifeFlyer

    MidlifeFlyer Well-Known Member

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    And of course, not everyone really wants it. I've personally known three pilots who initially too the airline route and quit. In two cases, they decided the initial years of low pay were not worth the possible long term reward, in another case, it was more than 20 years ago before the pay scale won't to hell. In his case, it was the potential for lots of time away from home. When I asked why he simply told me, "I needed to decide whether I wanted to be an airline pilot or a Dad. I decided on being a Dad."
     
  6. Hacker15e

    Hacker15e The Intersection of Opportunity and Preparation

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    Hence why I offered the correction, because that wasn't my assertion.

     
  7. Cherokee_Cruiser

    Cherokee_Cruiser Well-Known Member

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    What's this Alaska Airlines reference?
     
  8. learhawkerbe400

    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't want to go make 3 times the money and have more time off at an airline bc he can't make videos of himself there.
     
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  9. poser765

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    In defense if the channel is popular enough, he can make up that difference with add revenue.
     
  10. AAPalmTree

    AAPalmTree Well-Known Member

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    He could at his first choice American:
     
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  11. MidlifeFlyer

    MidlifeFlyer Well-Known Member

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    It's a case, actually one of 2 cases in which an Alaska Airlines pilot flew a right base to a nontowered airport. The pilot's defense was that it was far enough out to be outside the normal traffic pattern and essentially a right turn to a straight in approach. The cases are often cited for the proposition that anything within 6 miles of the airport is in the traffic pattern; others say is really stands more for the proposition that the size of a traffic pattern depends on the airplane involved. Either way you want to read them, though, it's pretty clear the left turn rule applies to nontowered airports that don't have a tower, operating or not.

    Only one of the cases, FAA v Boardman, is available on the NTSB website. The one that talks more extensively about the issue, Rivard, is discussed in Boardman but is just old enough to be outside the group collected on the public site.
     
  12. Cherokee_Cruiser

    Cherokee_Cruiser Well-Known Member

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    Why did that result in certificate action? Was there loss of separation from another aircraft? Or too close to terrain? Shoot, I can think of worse things that some guys have done but have gotten away with it because they ASAPed it.
     
  13. MidlifeFlyer

    MidlifeFlyer Well-Known Member

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    Beats me. Maybe it was a time of greater FAA emphasis on enforcement? Maybe some pilot complained about being cut off? Maybe there was a loss of separation, although that's really not a technical issue VFR? Maybe, considering there were apparently two of these involving the same aurline bought in a short timespan, there had already been an effort to handle more informally? Maybe the FAA offered a "plea bargain" that was rejected because the pilots insisted they were right so further action had to be taken? Maybe...
     
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  14. USMCmech

    USMCmech Well-Known Member

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    Like almost all FAA enforcements, there is a lot more to the story. Often the violation that actually gets enforced is only incidental to what the pilots actually did to piss off the FAA.

    I had a coworker who landed on a taxiway just for fun and a FSDO inspector was watching. Landing on a taxiway isn't a violation of any FAR by itself, and may not be a violation of 91.13 depending on the circumstances. So the FSDO started digging and found that the VOR check was 2 days out of date.
     
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    Kingairer Well-Known Member

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    I feel like ill be flying with guys in the future who say things like " you don't mind if I live feed this flight do you?" .
     
  16. Richman

    Richman Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you don't like the free videos on YouTube, you can set your Hot Tub Time Machine for 1987 and pay $30 a pop for the "Wonderful World of Flying" on VHS.

    Richman

    PS: those too are available on YouTube. Pretty cool blast from the past.
     
  17. Adler

    Adler How much cheese is too much cheese?

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    Facetime on short low level flights to a Captain's son has happened before - he just wanted his son to know what he did at work.
     
  18. MidlifeFlyer

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    Too funny. I missed it but apparently Jerry did an ILS so bad - apparently including a 2000 FPM descent and a statement it wis perfectly fine ito intemtuonally be 200' off altitude - that he deleted the video. And the one after it where he talks about how bad it was. The Reddit crew is discussing it.
     
  19. Hacker15e

    Hacker15e The Intersection of Opportunity and Preparation

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    http://forums.jetcareers.com/thread...ltitude-airspeed-localizer-glideslope.247907/
     
  20. gotWXdagain

    gotWXdagain Highly Visible Member

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    It might or might not be because I sent a link with his youtube account to the feds via their online forum.
     

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