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Some pointers from a friend that worked WAI

Discussion in 'Airline Pilots' started by Derg, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. Derg

    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    American's recruitment team wasn't there in 2017. They're actually who sparked the exodus last year.
     
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    Dphoenix Love lasagna, hate mondays

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    Hacker15e Virtue Signaling Intersectional Nonbinary Otherkin

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    A room full of tipsy-to-hammered fighter pilots pontificating about what a young, un-amed fighter pilot should be called from that day forward.
     
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    Yeah, that's one way to get off probation really fast!
     
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    AAPalmTree Well-Known Member

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    Not following you.
     
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    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

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    Just more evidence that AA is industry-leading.
     
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    Kingairer Well-Known Member

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    Well half the newhires at AA they are forced to take so recruitment probably less necessary.
     
  9. PhilosopherPilot

    PhilosopherPilot Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. Your ability as a pilot is FAR more than ability to keep the dirty side down. If you are a total jerk, you are unsafe. Well rounded people are going to be more flexible in various work situations, and better equipped to adapt to a dynamic environment. If all you ever focus on is flying, you're missing the point.

    BTW, the "sweet spot" in our training program seems to be about 2000 hours. Training performance begins to suffer as flight time increases. Do with that what you will.
     
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    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    I know it's going to hurt some of the numerical entitlement crowd, but it's "qualitative" and not "quantitative".

    If you show up to the carrier you want to work for with the attitude that "Well, I have the flight time, why haven't you called?" you're not going to have a good day.
     
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  11. Roger Roger

    Roger Roger Navajo Whisperer

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    This is purely outside looking in, but I would venture a guess that it's not an either/or proposition as some seem to insinuate. I don't know much, but I HAVE seen a lot of pilots cycle through our company (an operation that has a yuuuge amount of facetime with the customers) and we want folks who can fly the hell out of an airplane AND comfort nervous first time fliers, treat the frequent fliers with respect, treat the CSAs/dispatch/maintenance/ramp with professionalism and respect when The Plan is all going to hell, etc, etc, etc. I've only known a few who met those desired qualifications though, and either they stay on and move up in the company, or they zip on through up and out.
     
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    (Caveat: I'm making an assumption that you're running a 135 with piston twins, single pilot authorization.)

    What you described is exactly the kind of person you're looking for in a 135 operation or part 91, and they're getting harder to find from I'm seeing.

    Airlines are a bit different though. You hire the person and then teach them to fly the plane. SOP's are set in stone and adherence is either met or it isn't. That's why they have such an extensive training department. They have the luxury of hiring the person and assuming they have the skills to make it through training. A multi-crew environment is designed to check and recheck. A single pilot operation is much more reliant on getting "good pilots" in the seat from the get-go.

    You can train most people to be good pilots. You can't train anybody not to be an arsehole.
     
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    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    You would be very entertained about a social media post where the internet exploded because I was wearing a uniform coat when it was cold and EGADS got a wheelchair for a passenger in order to commence boarding. :)
     
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    More like a gnash cluster formed.
     
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    ^^^This is the Internet "Truth of the Day!"^^^^
     
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    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    We'd probably still be sitting there with 160 people waiting to board because no one actually, you know, took the initiative to roll the passenger off the airplane.

    I will do my best to make the Faceweb rage today with righteous indignation. :)
     
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    Cptnchia Well-Known Member

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    I got your six! As for the cost, I was taking some things to the dry cleaners and almost took it too, then thought, "Winter finally came. Self, you might want to wear it another week or so."
     
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    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    Plus, at home it's 90F. Everywhere else I fly it's in the 30's at most except for short turns in FL.

    Huge cockpit, warm on my northeast walk arounds and I don't look like an lunatic waiting for Golden Touch shivering in short sleeves in the ice floes!
     
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    Cptnchia Well-Known Member

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    I got CQ this weekend. Hopefully it'll warm up before I have to go to work again next week.
     
  20. Roger Roger

    Roger Roger Navajo Whisperer

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    I saw that one.
     
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