PSA: Blackbird: Don't

z987k

z987k

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Autothrust Blue said:
The ASI specifically warns against not being PIC of an illicit charter operation, which I guess is the avenue for enforcement.
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Which is horse crap. The FAA needs to go after companies harder than they do pilots.
For the most part pilots don't get up in the morning and think, I'm going to see how many regs I can break today. Maybe I can screw my ability to provide for my family for the next 10 years! Aircraft(airline/charter/whatever) management does, because there are no consequences for them.

Not related to part 91, but the FAA needs to start handing out suspensions to 135/121 certificate holders. 30(60 90, year, emergency revocation) days, no operations(no money) Not PICs. A company will get all the pilots in line really damn quick if their ability to do business is on the line.
 
Crop Duster

Crop Duster

E pluribus unum
Anybody fly into Nassau regularly? Anybody ever met the dude who flies the N-regged light twins that fly between Nassau and S. FLA almost every day? Anyone talked to that dude? Anyone heard his story about how he is flying "friends" (3-6 of them) between Nassau and S. FLA almost every day? Anyone seen the "tips" those "friends" give the pilot every time he lands at Nassau?? ...

... I have.
 
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tiredcfi

Not a child of magenta
z987k said:
Which is horse crap. The FAA needs to go after companies harder than they do pilots.
For the most part pilots don't get up in the morning and think, I'm going to see how many regs I can break today. Maybe I can screw my ability to provide for my family for the next 10 years! Aircraft(airline/charter/whatever) management does, because there are no consequences for them.

Not related to part 91, but the FAA needs to start handing out suspensions to 135/121 certificate holders. 30(60 90, year, emergency revocation) days, no operations(no money) Not PICs. A company will get all the pilots in line really damn quick if their ability to do business is on the line.
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Only if they can compel the certificate holder to pay their employees during the suspension period...
 
z987k

z987k

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tiredcfi said:
Only if they can compel the certificate holder to pay their employees during the suspension period...
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I mean, my intention here is pretty much the opposite of that. A 90 day certificate suspension would bankrupt the vast majority of airlines.
And that's the goal. Break regs(at the direction of the certificate holder), or have your corporate culture such that the company's actions directly lead to deaths, don't exist.

It would entirely remove from existence probably 75% of all 135 outfits and certainly a number of 121. A couple Miami based ones come to mind. Hell, my airline comes to mind. If I lost my job tomorrow morning because the FAA shut us down, well. I'd honestly be pretty happy about it that the FAA grew a set and have no problem being collateral damage in that action.
 
Autothrust Blue

Autothrust Blue

"I’d make a suggestion but you won’t listen”
z987k said:
Which is horse crap. The FAA needs to go after companies harder than they do pilots.
For the most part pilots don't get up in the morning and think, I'm going to see how many regs I can break today. Maybe I can screw my ability to provide for my family for the next 10 years! Aircraft(airline/charter/whatever) management does, because there are no consequences for them.

Not related to part 91, but the FAA needs to start handing out suspensions to 135/121 certificate holders. 30(60 90, year, emergency revocation) days, no operations(no money) Not PICs. A company will get all the pilots in line really damn quick if their ability to do business is on the line.
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I don’t disagree, for the same reasons that the IRS shouldn’t audit poor people. Now go call Steve and see if you can sort him out.

This is more of a “don’t work there” warning. And someone with a commercial is (or was - back in my day) required to know the difference between airman and air carrier certificate requirements, so...
 
Oxman

Oxman

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z987k said:
Which is horse crap. The FAA needs to go after companies harder than they do pilots.
For the most part pilots don't get up in the morning and think, I'm going to see how many regs I can break today. Maybe I can screw my ability to provide for my family for the next 10 years! Aircraft(airline/charter/whatever) management does, because there are no consequences for them.

Not related to part 91, but the FAA needs to start handing out suspensions to 135/121 certificate holders. 30(60 90, year, emergency revocation) days, no operations(no money) Not PICs. A company will get all the pilots in line really damn quick if their ability to do business is on the line.
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They go after the easy target.
 
Inverted

Inverted

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It is a dangerous deal. I know about Blackbird, and from a pilot perspective, and even an aircraft owner perspective, the water is muddied at best. That is a world operated entirely by shades of grey.
 
CFI A&P

CFI A&P

Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
Crop Duster said:
Anybody fly into Nassau regularly? Anybody ever met the dude who flies the N-regged light twins that fly between Nassau and S. FLA almost every day? Anyone talked to that dude? Anyone heard his story about how he is flying "friends" (3-6 of them) between Nassau and S. FLA almost every day? Anyone seen the "tips" those "friends" give the pilot every time he lands at Nassau?? ...

... I have.
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That guy is just one of a hundred pilots that do it. Unfortunately the FSDO isn’t looking too hard in to that
 
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