Pilot Top ten in income -- Riiiight

Mavmb

Well-Known Member
top 10 paying jobs


Sure, just pay 50 thousand for all the ratings, make slave wages for ten years, have people constantly trying to crash the plane while being a flight instructor and building hours, then spend a couple months away from home making 20000 a year at the regionals, lose your job and get furloughed a couple of times, and if you're able to keep an aviation medical all those years, then make 100000 as an airline pilot before you have to retire in two years!
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Mavs' right.

Mine was like this (and all numbers are approx)

Started flying in 1988, earned all of my ratings by 1994.

1987 Student
1988 Student
1989 Student
1990 Student
1991 Student
1992 Student
1993 Student (Grand total of college & flight training cost over $100,000 easily)
1994 CFI: $7,200
1995 CFI: $8,900
1996 Beech 1900 FO: $14,400 (salary)
1997 Beech 1900 FO/CA: $16,000 (salary)
1998 727 FE: $25,000
1999 737 FO: $37,000
2000 MD88FO: $72,000
2001 MD88FO: $105,000
2002 MD88FO: $107,000

I started flying in 1987 and "broke even" sometime in Y2K.
 

pavelump

Well-Known Member
That's funny, when I pressed the link for "pilot", most of the jobs listed were for "Pilot Travel Centers LLC". I didn't know you could make so much money at a truck stop...


Dave
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Interesting how they didn't show the average wage/hour for pilots.

But lemme see, 240 hours away per month x 12 months = 2,880 hours of work per annum.

99,400 (estimated salary as per MSN) / 2,880 hours = $34.51 per hour

We wouldn't even make the list!
 

EatSleepFly

Well-Known Member
Here's another crock o' •!, (probably where MSN got their numbers from)...this one brought to you by the U.S. Bureau of Labor and Statistics.

This is how they define "Commercial Pilots", who supposedly make $55k+ per year, according to the BLS:

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Pilot and navigate the flight of small fixed or rotary winged aircraft, primarily for the transport of cargo and passengers. Requires Commercial Rating. Include aircraft instructors with similar certification.

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Then theres a whole seperate listing for "Airline Pilots".

http://www.bls.gov/oes/2001/oes_53Tr.htm
 

Mr_Creepy

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1987 Student
1988 Student
1989 Pvt
1990 Comm 2k
1991 CFIA, II, MEI 5k
1992 Charter 12k
1993 Charter 12k
1994 Charter 15k
1995 Eagle Shorts FO 18k
1996 Mesa Beech 1900 FO: 16k
1997 Mesa Beech 1900 FO: 20k
1998 Mesa Beech 1900 CA: 31k
1999 Mesa Beech 1900 CA: 33k
2000 Mesa CRJ CA (part of year) 48k
2001 Midway B737 FO 22k (9-11 ended my employment)
2002 Charter Chief Pilot 21k
2003 Business Owner 65k (on track anyway - 32.5k by end of June)

I started flying in 1987 and "broke even" sometime in year 2000 also.

So much for getting rich as a pilot
 

pilot602

If specified, this will replace the title that
How do you become a millionaire in the aviation game?

Begin as a billionaire.
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
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How do you become a millionaire in the aviation game?

Begin as a billionaire.

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...and start an airline!
 

vipermcg

New Member
I know your away from home around 240 hours a month, but some of these hours you could be sitting in your hotel room watching tv. Should this really count as work?
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Hell yeah! Biiig time!

Depending on the layover city, it can be like serving time in prison. I had a 29 hour layover in KJAN in the middle of nowhere by the freeway and literally, there was a car dealership, a Kroger and a bad Chinese restaraunt and that was it!

A doctor at the hospital not performing surgery is working no more than me boarding passengers, shuttling between gates and sitting in a crap layover hotel/city.
 

Mr_Creepy

Well-Known Member
You don't get paid for the layover time unless you count $1.25/hr pr diem as being "paid."

I like the "imprisonment" analogy. Ever overnight in Massena, NY? NOTHING is open after 8:30pm!
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
I did a 18-hour Xmas in BTR and the only food choice the captain and I had was the gas station down the street.

The people that worked in the restaraunt at our hotel were away at another hotel having a Xmas party.

Depending on the city and the season, a layover can be prison-like.
 

EatSleepFly

Well-Known Member
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Ever overnight in Massena, NY? NOTHING is open after 8:30pm!


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There's something in Massena thats even capable of being open?


Talk about the middle of freaking nowhere...I've visited friends up there in extreme northern NY plenty of times. Not exactly a happening place.
 

Mr_Creepy

Well-Known Member
The 1900 crews often overnighted at places like Bradford, PA; Jamestown, NY; Reading, PA; Clarksburg, WV; etc.

I know one crew that drove from Bradford to Jamestown in a rental car just to see us, so they would have someone to talk to!!!

By the way, the "one bar" in Jamestown is a college bar, but there was a "Pat" there. We couldn't tell if it was male or female! That was an interesting night


I kept trying to get my FO to try and pick "it" up LOL
 

Mr_Creepy

Well-Known Member
Hey I put a high score in there but that is NOT coming from flying income !!!

Sorry to mess up your poll.
 

mpenguin1

Well-Known Member
Guys, this was based on averages. I am sure that they not use the 70-90 hour work week that Lawyers & Doctors put in.

When lawyers or doctors leave 4 years of college and then 4 plus years of medical or law school they are about $100k in the debt.
 

MissedApproach

Well-Known Member
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Hey I put a high score in there but that is NOT coming from flying income !!!

Sorry to mess up your poll.


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Eh, it was hardly scientific to begin with, still interesting numbers though.
 
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