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Picto Companies Hiring for 2017-2018 Season (Fresh Commercial)

Discussion in 'Jobs Available' started by srn121, Jul 7, 2017.

  1. Cory Trevor

    Cory Trevor Well-Known Member

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    There are for sure added risks of flying at Air America, but as long as you stay smart and vigilant and don't get complacent everything should run smoothly. All the accidents that I know of at Air America were not caused because of the aircraft. The gear up the pilot forgot to put the gear down. Someone hit a pole with the wing. A pilot porpoises an Aztec and didn't go around causing the nose gear to collapse. I'm not sure if the company came after the pilot for the damages in all those cases but I do know for sure they did with the gear up. I also know that one of the planes had the gear collapse on takeoff in one of the Aztecs and the company took the financial responsibility because it was not the pilot's fault.

    Air America isn't perfect I know that but even knowing what I know about the company now I'd still do it all over again. In the year and a half that I was there I was able to pay off $35,000 in student loans which I probably couldn't have done at any other vender. Another downfall of aerial survey as a whole, though, is some guys get lucky and some don't. I consider myself lucky that I got good projects and was almost always with at least one other pilot.

    Believe me, I'm not arguing with you at all and agree with your points but just want to share my experience with the company which was pretty much all positive.

    One last note I'd like to make is that I have heard things have changed a little bit since I've left. It sounds like there are a lot more pilot/managers or something to that effect, which to me, sounds like it ruins a lot of freedom that AA had. When we were there as long as the projects got done and you weren't a complete idiot you would literally never hear from Jake unless you had to relocate somewhere
     
  2. yrbroom

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    I'm not sure what it was like when you were there, but it's really only a couple Team Leads who fly on projects as well. I don't really hear from them either unless there's a question about my daily report or I'm relocating. Fly when you can, don't fly when you can't and you'll be fine.
     
  3. Yakob

    Yakob Well-Known Member

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    Well it's nice to know the company didn't dock the pilot's pay in that case where it was not the pilots fault. However docking pay to cover the company's insurance expenses would likely be illegal in a legitimate W-2 employee arrangement. In 2011 a Trinidad was landed gear-up at the flight school I did most of my training at and they certainly didn't dock the instructor's pay.

    I am personally skeptical that you can make that much more at Air America than the other vendors although as you point out there is a certain degree of luck to it and I generally had bad luck with weather, also ended up by myself a lot too. Canada was where the real money was at with the extra per diem; I was lucky to spend as much time there as I did.

    I'm not trying to argue with you either, I hope I didn't come across as trying to be nasty with my other post.

    I suppose it makes sense for there to be more managers, since as I understand it the fleet has grown considerably since @Cory Trevor and I were there. Still for the 1099 arrangement to be legal there should be even more freedom- I believe one of the legal tests for 1099 independent contractor status is that the contractor should set their own schedule. I'm also skeptical that there is much more freedom at AA than the other vendors. By the nature of the job you will have limited contact with management since you're away from the headquarters on the road most of the time. You have to admit there was plenty of kool-aid at Air America and all the stuff about how much freedom we had compared to other vendors was part of it.

    Is there still a "Logistics Coordinator" or "Logistics Manager"? Toward the end of my time there they appointed one of the pilots as something like that. As far as I could tell his responsibilities were mostly booking flights when pilots left on vacation or came back. Supposedly he was promoted after he reported some Aztec pilots who were lying on their Hobbs and Tach sheets.

    I still stand by my advice to avoid Air America- the risks of being an independent contractor simply aren't worth it in my opinion, especially considering that you most likely won't be eligible for Worker's Comp if injured.
     
  4. ActionAxson

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    What kind of information do people have on the Canadian picto vendor? How often were you working with them?
     
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  6. Yakob

    Yakob Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know the only Canadian Picto vendor is First Base Solutions. http://www.firstbasesolutions.com/

    I've never worked for them but ran into two of their pilots once when we were working on the same project. I would assume First Base Solutions hires around the same time of year as the other vendors but I don't know much about their requirements or hiring process. Like the U.S. vendors they use Cessna 172s, and instead of Aztecs they use Cessna 206s. They also have a Cessna 414 for some non-Pictometry survey work they do. During the winter they do quite a bit of work in the U.S.A. as well.
     
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