PIA A320 crash in Karachi

Cherokee_Cruiser

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Oh damn this hits close. :(

Yet again. Nothing changes. PIA crash from Dec 2016, no official report. Nothing. Just “Allah Allah khair sallah”

So 2010-2020. Air Blue A321, Bhohja 737, PIA ATR, now PIA A320. :eek2:
 

tcco94

Professional GTA V Pilot
Someone on the internet said the ATC recording said they had gear issues so came around for a second attempt and had an engine failure on that attempt and landed short of the runway. Can't find anywhere to verify that.
 

NovemberEcho

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Someone on the internet said the ATC recording said they had gear issues so came around for a second attempt and had an engine failure on that attempt and landed short of the runway. Can't find anywhere to verify that.
I also heard this on the internet
 

Skåning

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Kinda looks like the gear is down. No bueno when you lose power and have nowhere to go. AOA looks super high front this angle.

If the RAT is down then that means there’s an electrical or hydraulic problem, in the A320 the flight control law changes when you put the gear down when you’re already in a degraded state.

 
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Inverted

The journey is the meat in the goal sandwich
Kinda looks like the gear is down. No bueno when you lose power and have nowhere to go. AOA looks super high front this angle.

If the RAT is down then that means there’s an electrical or hydraulic problem, in the A320 the flight control law changes when you put the gear down when you’re already in a degraded state.

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Yup. Direct law and or worse, they would have had to remember how to fly airplanes again, and very quickly.
 
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Yup. Direct law and or worse, they would have had to remember how to fly airplanes again, and very quickly.
Maybe that would help...

But even if they did remember, there's nothing direct about direct law. They'd still just be telling computers to move the wiggly parts out on the wings and tail.

Fly-by-wire airplanes are like lead in the water. They both reduce pilot capabilities without the pilots realizing their capabilities are being reduced. Insidious shirt, that.
 
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Skåning

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I'm trying to think how they'd even get to scratch the cowls, it would almost have to be intentional to land gear up in the A320. It's of course happened in other airliners but not the A320. This is a weird one and after watching the video a few times that rate of descent looks like gliding, not under power. Hopefully they can find some evidence in the rubble and actually post findings.
 

tcco94

Professional GTA V Pilot
Is it possible the black under the engines is due to burning and not scraping the airplane on the first attempt? How likely is that scenario
 

milleR

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How could they have scraped the cowls like that and not also have had a tail strike? I don’t see any visible damage to the aft part of the plane.
 
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