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PHNL approach plates

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Chief Captain, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. Chief Captain

    Chief Captain Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    Does anyone know why PHNL publishes separate approach plates for the ILS and LOC approaches to 4R and 8L. I see that the MAP is different for the LOC approaches, and I'm also curious as to why. Terrain?
     
  2. AA34

    AA34 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like it could be a non-standard climb gradient due to terrain on the missed? @BobDDuck would know for sure.
     
  3. BobDDuck

    BobDDuck Gone whale watching...

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    Not really sure. The non standard climb gradient is just for the 4R. It may have something to do with both ILS approaches require DME off a VOR or Radar where as the LOC only approaches do not.
     
  4. dustoff17

    dustoff17 Well-Known Member

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    My bet is that you're right, it's terrain based. They have two different missed approach procedures due terrain and the location of the MAP. I think the difference in the missed procedure would be difficult to depict on one plate.

    P.S. I'm guessing....
     
  5. Kimo

    Kimo Well-Known Member

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    Eh no worry. You're gonna get the visual anyway.
     
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  6. Cessnaflyer

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    It's funny they always did this approach in the sim to make sure we could use the save DME function for the DME from the VOR and also they would kill the glideslope to see who would continue looking for LOC minimums on the ILS plate.

    I vaguely remember something about missed approach procedures having to be slightly different because of obstacles on Sand Island.
     
  7. Chief Captain

    Chief Captain Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys!
     
  8. Autothrust Blue

    Autothrust Blue "This is a God damn waste of time!"

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    That DME hold button tho'.
     
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