OH DELTA! Thread #299

Seggy

Well-Known Member
March 26, 2020

Fellow Council 16 pilots,

On Tuesday, two company memos were published. One was from John Laughter, our new senior vice president of Flight Operations. In that memo, Mr. Laughter announced that Delta would not be offering SILs for May and June.

The other came from CEO Ed Bastian. In his memo, Mr. Bastian failed to publish the significant contribution Delta pilots have already made (LOA #20-01) to help Delta Air Lines during this crisis. He also failed to mention that ALPA approached management twice prior to April bidding opening to offer our help. Unfortunately, he chose to highlight only what other employees have done thus far. He then attempted to force an artificial and unrealistic deadline (this Friday) on ALPA, despite knowing full well how our process works. In other words, he’s intentionally trying to pit other employee groups against the pilots and doing whatever he can to set us up as the “bad guys” if we don’t capitulate to management’s demands.

As a result of the two senior management communiques, one extremely short-sighted and the other inflammatory, your reps have received an overwhelming amount of feedback from you, the Council 16 pilots. The input is, by far, the most we’ve ever received on any issue. And I can report that all other councils are receiving record (and negative) input as well.

And then yesterday, Mr. Laughter sent out yet another memo about SILs. The memo again failed to explain why senior management was violating the intent of the agreement, and even went so far as suggesting that SILs were never intended to be a commitment.

Let’s review: Management came to us and asked for SILs. We agreed that SILs at 55 hours could be offered for May and June as a rare win/win. When that agreement became known to other employee groups, some of which have been on the verge of organizing, management received negative feedback. Due to their fear of unionization, management chose to appease the other employee groups by reneging on the clear intent of our agreement. In other words, they put their antiunion culture above their need for relief during a crisis.

Short-sighted, foolish, and tone deaf? Clearly. But that’s not the main problem. This management team has a long history of willfully violating our PWA and their own Rules of the Road, ignoring pilot concerns (even simple ones like deadhead seat issues) and failing to negotiate with us in good faith. During Section 6 negotiations, it took about 10 months to get management to agree to a mere $28 million in improvements while they were making $6 billion in profits and while they were burning billions more in stock buybacks to enrich themselves. Then a crisis hit, and despite their lack of goodwill, we reached out to them and offered our help. They refused twice, but then came to us again asking for assistance. By a 19-0 MEC vote, we agreed to save them likely over $100 million (the exact number is still being processed) with LOA #20-01. Despite our generosity, they again chose to show their lack of respect for you, the Delta pilots, by reneging on the intent of the agreement. And now? Because the feedback has been overwhelmingly negative, they’ve decided to try to cover it all up by claiming they never intended to make a commitment to SILs. They could have and should have done the right thing with a sincere apology and a reinstatement of the SILs. But they don’t care about doing the right thing. They care about keeping unions off the property. So much so, in fact, that they have no genuine interest in working with us during this crisis.

As we manage the crisis, please understand that Steve, Sham, and I are attempting to answer every e-mail, text, and phone call we get, but that they just keep coming. If we miss responding to yours, please understand that we have received your input and are assimilating it with everyone else’s.

I also strongly suggest providing your input to the CPO, as they need to be aware of your perspective so they can pass it up the chain. This senior management team has repeatedly ignored ALPA when we’ve told them what we’re hearing, but if they hear it from their own ranks, perhaps they will finally listen and actually do the right thing.

Thus far, the vast majority of input falls under one of two categories:

1. Do not give senior executives anything. They have acted in an untrustworthy manner, have repeatedly violated their own Rules of the Road and our PWA at will, wasted billions on stock buybacks to enrich themselves, failed to negotiate in good faith during Section 6 negotiations, and any gives now will not protect us from management coming after us for more later.

2. Consider offering temporary and limited relief, but only if management addresses some of our concerns (e.g., elimination of SL verification, DH seat issues, senior SILs a la American Airlines, etc.) and offers a premium return on our investment at a later date, with ironclad snapbacks/snap-ups included in any agreement.

Please continue to provide your feedback, but also please be patient. With only three of us, and over 1,000 of you, responding will take some time. Additionally, the MEC will meet via teleconference in special session today and tomorrow, so we will have little to no time to respond over the next couple days. Finally, Brian will be in the lounge Saturday through Tuesday. Thank you, and please stay safe and healthy.

Brian, Steven, and Hesham Aly
 

adk

Steals Hotel Toilet Paper
Between the stock buybacks and now reneging on this handshake agreement to offer temporary paid leaves, DAL management has destroyed years of carefully constructed goodwill and strongly brewed kool-aid.
#keepclimbing
 

Cherokee_Cruiser

Well-Known Member
Seriously, Delta management sucks. You guys got royally hosed on that SIL deal. How is that even legal, if it was codified into a signed LOA that was attached to your PWA? Between this SIL screwing and the Delta CP saying “you wouldn’t want to be at American or United right now,” you guys have some of the most arrogant figures in the industry. And sadly, it rubs off on the some pilots. Hence all the Delta jokes.

Anyway. Tough times for all. Looks like we’ve secured our jobs (no involuntary layoff) and pay/benefits for 6 months. Who knows what Oct 1 looks like? Good luck to us all.
 
Seriously, Delta management sucks. You guys got royally hosed on that SIL deal. How is that even legal, if it was codified into a signed LOA that was attached to your PWA? Between this SIL screwing and the Delta CP saying “you wouldn’t want to be at American or United right now,” you guys have some of the most arrogant figures in the industry. And sadly, it rubs off on the some pilots. Hence all the Delta jokes.

Anyway. Tough times for all. Looks like we’ve secured our jobs (no involuntary layoff) and pay/benefits for 6 months. Who knows what Oct 1 looks like? Good luck to us all.
You're at Alaska, should you really be talking about how another shops management sucks? Really? Reaaaaaaalllly???
 

deadstick

Well-Known Member
About 30% of our pilots took 50 hour VLOAs.
I thought one reason not to furlough was that there wouldn’t be a training logjam on the backside. Pilots would still fly to maintain proficiency, albeit fewer hours per month, and to maintain their training/checking cycle.
 

Cherokee_Cruiser

Well-Known Member
If by facts you mean the LOA didn't actually say they had to offer SILs, then yeah. But keep talking about crap you have no idea about as per usual.
Ah. So they got played. That clears it up. I knew something was fishy because once you sign an LOA that had SIL that should have been binding. Sounds like you need better union leadership reps to take charge.
 

bike21

9-5 Ruins Lives
Ah. So they got played. That clears it up. I knew something was fishy because once you sign an LOA that had SIL that should have been binding. Sounds like you need better union leadership reps to take charge.
So you made accusations without facts right? Not sure you're one to judge our situation.
 
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