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Night carrier landing, E-2C Hawkeye....

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by bunk22, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. bunk22

    bunk22 Well-Known Member

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    SurferLucas Southern Gentleman

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    That was awesome to watch...

    Question, is that a Garmin 530 in the flight deck?
     
  4. bustinminimums

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    I thought all the hummers in the fleet had the glass updates.
     
  5. A Life Aloft

    A Life Aloft Well-Known Member

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  6. killbilly

    killbilly Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens

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    That's an AOA indicator right on top of the dash, right?


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    JDean3204 Well-Known Member

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    I believe it was the center MFD-255 that the E-2 had in their legacy birds. If the E-2 was any thing like the C-2 avionics wise that is...
     
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  8. MikeD

    MikeD Administrator Staff Member

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    AOA is primary.
     
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    Skåning Well-Known Member

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    ...swing and a miss
     
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    Exactly! As much as I hated the inflated ego of navy pilots (some) while working with them, that looks harder than any landing that takes place in 121 by far!
     
  11. A Life Aloft

    A Life Aloft Well-Known Member

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    Just repeating the nonsense that I have seen some members of this forum post many times in the past during discussions with Military aviators. I always find such comments and comparisons asinine myself, but again, some members here actually believe that tripe. That was the point I was trying to make.

    Geez, ya think? I am in total and complete agreement. See above explanation. I figured that people would have picked up on that since it's been the theme in many threads, but apparently not. Oh well. That's why I wrote, "I mean that's what I've seen written here many times at least." with the fricking smiley face.
     
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    killbilly Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens

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    Yeah, that's what I thought.

    I'm still surprised that - with all the emphasis on stall/spin awareness - that the FAA hasn't mandated AOA indicators on GA aircraft.
     
  13. learhawkerbe400

    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

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    What is your flying background? I cannot figure it out.
     
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    Well, there is some merit to that, at least the valuable part. Such a different type of flying.
     
  15. bunk22

    bunk22 Well-Known Member

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    So this night approach is a pinky, or at dusk, so it's no where as black as in can be. The dark, dark nights with no horizon are the absolute toughest landings I've done....then add in weather. I honestly don't know how I did what I did as I'm an average pilot on my best day...training, training, training. We used to train so much, fly so many FCLP's with Paddles up our ass, day and night.

    As for a night or Case III, you used needles once you leveled at 1200 feet (if they were available). I would not go on speed in a Hawkeye or Greyhound at 10 miles out though, you may and Hornets behind you. Onspeed for a COD is 110 KIAS give or take (20 units) and a Hawkeye is a little faster at 20 units. A Hornet can be 140 KIAS and will catch you, in which case, depending on his fuel state (yours too but the props rarely have the fuel issues of a jet) you might get spit out to do it again. So you had to be at 1200' at 10nm behind the boat, approach starts at 3nm. You fly needles till maybe a 1/2 mile in then it's more out and in, at about 1/4 mile, it's meatball, line, angle of attack. At least that's how I did it, technique only

    Here is the approach, used for night or Case III weather:

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    Here is the line-up with needles...

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    Holy Hell. How much more can I explain my comment. I have seen various members here arguing with Military aviators regarding Military flying versus 121 ops. I have seem them disregard Military flying many times. Have you not seen these discussions? They have occurred many times. I believe that Military pilots have superior skills especially in multi taxing, types of equipment flown and the environments in which they fly. But they are constantly told that they don't know anything/have no idea what they are talking about by some 121 pilots on here.So I posted what has been discussed here in many threads with them. One member here is famous for knocking their abilities and keeps saying how 121 flying is so much superior, different, etc. they will argue constantly and often even insult Military pilots. It has always bothered me, so I posted my comment as SARCASM because those things have been stated so often to them. Bejebus.


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    A Life Aloft Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe that it has any merit. It was SARCASM. Good Grief.
     
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    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

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    And all I asked is what your background was. Calm down. I didn't say anything about your comment. I've seen your posts and was curious.
     
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    knot4u Repeat Offender

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    I'm curious too. I like and appreciate @A Life Aloft and his input here, I've read here that he's had some medical issues recently and seems to be transitioning into retirement gracefully. I don't know from what perspective he posts, but some context would confirm my opinion of his opinions.
     
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  20. MikeD

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    Interesting. VRC-30 C-2A recovery to and launch from the French Navy aircraft carrier Charles DeGaulle

     
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