MikeD's in good hands in the A-10

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

Hey Mike-

I know you got shot at in Afghanistan so it's nothing new to you, but I thought I'd share some A-10 photos fresh from Iraq:

The 'hog's one tough machine!











 

sbav8r

New Member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

Like someone else said "and they think the X35 can replace this beast, no way!"
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

X-35's for pretty boys.

Just like the rumor back in college was them putting the F-16 as a FAC aircraft. Riiiight!
 

Mike Lewis

Shadow Administrator
Staff member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

Hey MikeD, did you pick the A-10 or did you manage to luck out out and get chosen for it?

I can think of no better fit than MikeD and the A-10. (Well, since most of the aircraft I pictured MikeD flying have been retired from the inventory...) Knowing MikeD, I just can't picture him sitting in the cockpit of a computer-assisted, tactical-laser equipped JSF with his VR headset on...
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

You mean like one of those ascot-wearing F-16 guys that call themselves "fast movers" and refer to the aircraft as the "Viper"?


I'm sure MikeD hops in the A-10 with about three days of stubble on his face, blurbs a movie quote from "Catch-22" and blasts off!
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

[ QUOTE ]
Hey MikeD, did you pick the A-10 or did you manage to luck out out and get chosen for it?

I can think of no better fit than MikeD and the A-10. (Well, since most of the aircraft I pictured MikeD flying have been retired from the inventory...) Knowing MikeD, I just can't picture him sitting in the cockpit of a computer-assisted, tactical-laser equipped JSF with his VR headset on...


[/ QUOTE ]

Picked it out of pilot training.

I'm up for reassignment soon, you should see what my Preference Worksheet for assignment looks like.

MD
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

[ QUOTE ]
You mean like one of those ascot-wearing F-16 guys that call themselves "fast movers" and refer to the aircraft as the "Viper"?


I'm sure MikeD hops in the A-10 with about three days of stubble on his face, blurbs a movie quote from "Catch-22" and blasts off!

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm constantly amazed how much you remember about the old (and still current) me, Doug. In fact, I constantly get the annoyed eye from the squadron senior officers due to my Don Johnson (or Homer Simpson) 5 o'clock shadow look; and hair that borders on the edge of legal.

We had the DM airshow a couple of weekends ago. Since there wasn't anyone else available, I got selected to stand in front of the A-10 static display and answer all the public's questions. The Friday prior, I was specifically told to make sure I had a shave, and to try and make an effort for, just one day, to look like an officer of the United States Air Force, rather than some mercenary that happens to fly A-10s.

Maybe my CO will endorse my Thunderbirds application.....

MD
 

BJ

Well-Known Member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

MD,

Yeah, your the professional military officer of the year now. Although, remember the shot in the mobility line last year
I never thought of you as Homer Simpson before, but that's funny.

The hog's amazing....of course not everyone in the Air Force and its leadership will admit it. A couple years after this war, they'll try to do away with her again for the X-35. The X-35 has got some nice features, but it's not a hog. The viper has alot of nice features, but it can't do the hog's job...just ask the guys on the ground.

-BJ
 

highspeed

Well-Known Member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

I saw a TV news story about those pictures. I guess one of the 2 female A-10 pilots from the 75th squadron was flying a mission over Baghdad and got shot up.
The show also mentioned that she is the first pilot to land the A-10 controling only with manual reversion? Do you know if this is true MikeD? How hard would that be to do without hydralics?

On a side note MD, do you know of any AF pilots who are partially red-green color deficient? I'm still looking for a long shot. Thanks.
 

BJ

Well-Known Member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

Highspeed,

It's funny you mention that about the news story...20/20 I think. Her commander said that she was the first person to land in manual reversion. I think he tokened it with "and not wreck the plane". I know of 2 people that tried landing in man rev during the Gulf War....one of them died, the other I thought landed safely. Today at work, an "old-cranium" mentioned that he knew of 3 that had attemted to land. Maybe there was damage to the ones that landed and that's how he was able to make that comment.

Either way, it's pretty impressive that she landed it. I don't think that I've ever heard anyone brief that they would land in man rev. Someone today said that it would depend on the aircraft, being that they all react differently when in man rev.

-BJ
 

aloft

New Member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

The pilot of that particular Hog on that particular sortie is an acquaintance of mine, Kim Campbell. In addition to being one badass fighter pilot, she's also a product of Civil Air Patrol here in California.
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

Manual reversion is a pain in the ass in any aircraft -- except the -88. The story is, is that the -88 is a derivative of the DC-9. The "DC" in "DC-9" stands for "Direct Cable". pitch, roll and yaw control, for the most part, is manual control tabs.

So when you're flying .78 and you want to crank into a 25 degree bank, you'd better have worked out that morning!
 
G

Guest

Guest
Re: MikeD\'s in good hands in the A-10

Forgive my ignorance, but what is manual reversion?
 

BJ

Well-Known Member
Manual Reversion

Doug, you're joking about the DC thing aren't you? If not, that's impressive and something I would never have guessed.

The way the flight controls work for the A-10 is that we have a dual hydraulic system, one off each engine. Each of the hydraulic system will operate the ailerons, elevators, and rudders. The feel on the stick is an artificial system created by pulleys and springs. Manual Reversion is a worst case scenario for us when we lose both hydraulic systems. Like Doug said about the direct cables, those cables go directly from the cockpit to the flight controls. You can control the aircraft, but it make it difficult. For example, when you push the power up the nose will really climb and vice versa. The aircraft trim will still work though. Like I said before, most people brief that they will eject instead of land in manual reversion. One of the problem with landing the aircraft is that when you pull the power back on landing, the nose will drop. Also, it's pretty difficult to counteract winds. For even a worse case scenario, landing single-engine manual reversion adds all sorts of control problems and is even "not recommended" according to the Dash-1.

Predominently, the A-10 community will use manual reversion to get out of badguy land so that we can eject. It was a pretty ballsy move on Cambell's part to land it. Good on her though.

-BJ
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Re: Manual Reversion

Nah "DC" is "Douglas Corporation"!


But if you look at the power quadrant in a DC-9 and -88/90 series aircraft all of those levers connect to a jungle of pulleys and cables which control different features.

But yes, the -88 has manual (non-hydraulic) pitch and roll control.
 

BJ

Well-Known Member
Re: Manual Reversion

I figured as much, but I know the day I assume something and call someone out on it, I'll eat my words. Like you said before....talk about what you know and don't tell someone off who's more experienced in an area.

That is interesting about the -88 though. When you're talking pitch and roll control are you talking actual control or just a backup? I'd be surprised if it were actual.

-BJ
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
Re: Manual Reversion

[ QUOTE ]
You gotta love the good ole titanium tub.


[/ QUOTE ]

Well...that depends. The titanium tub surrounds the cockpit. The front windscreen is bulletproof too (and birdproof). The canopy over the cockpit, however, is plexiglass like the front windscreen of a 172. So, when low level and in the turns we do to keep sight of what's going on on the ground, if you take a round up through the canopy, the titanium bathtub becomes a titanium catchers' mitt.....with your pink body in the middle.

 

Center_Mid

Well-Known Member
Re: Manual Reversion

This has nothing to do with manual reversion. Just out of curiosity, are you a ring-knocker, ROTC, ANGie, or an OTS guy (I never heard of any OTS nickname)?

Dry wit and no-• perspective on USAF? My guess is OTS.
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
Re: Manual Reversion

[ QUOTE ]
This has nothing to do with manual reversion. Just out of curiosity, are you a ring-knocker, ROTC, ANGie, or an OTS guy (I never heard of any OTS nickname)?

Dry wit and no-• perspective on USAF? My guess is OTS.

[/ QUOTE ]

100% correct. Ex enlisted gone officer, but often wondering why.
 
Top