Discussion in 'General Topics' started by bimmerphile, Mar 17, 2017.
Not even John and Martha King could save this guy.
"I push the limits...."
It's almost like he's proud of himself. Jesus christ in a cartoon man, you're not just making mistakes, you're not even practicing basic airmanship.
Ha. I've already looked up homeboy's tail number and now know his exact name...
That can't be real...
I like 90's Martha better with the 'fro and all..
His wife looked like my mom when I was learning how to drive.
Damnit I better quick try the ILS 28R circle to land rwy 33 before you guys report him to the FAA and they start banning that approach. Seriously I've always wanted to try it.
Is that a well known approach or something?
You know, usually buffoons and airplanes solve themselves, but I felt really terrible for his passenger.
It felt like watching someone walk across the subway rails.
I wonder if he knows he has the fan club here.
I must've typed 3 different responses to his comments this morning only to erase them. What's the point? He's lost, the infuriating/troubling part is his followers rushing to defend what a great pilot he is. Blind leading the blind...
His response was "textbook IFR" done in perfect VFR weather
"Sort of." More local tribal knowledge, in the same sense that aviation nerds like me and @ChasenSFO would know that SFO circles all arrivals from the 28s to land on 1L/R once or twice a year over the San Mateo county hills, and he runs and nabs a perfect photo of it. I had a friend in OAK tower who confirmed that circling 28R for 33 would be used once in a blue moon, but circling to runway 15 is much more common (that's a traditional circling maneuver vs a low altitude 50 degree right turn).
OAK has some GA hangars on the far NW corner of the field, and he probably did that to save taxi time to those hangars. Was it an excessive maneuver to attempt in something as fast and heavy on the controls as a 310? Probably, especially when considering how behind the airplane he was in the rest of the video. But that doesn't mean it couldn't be accomplished safely in something slower like a Cessna 150, giving yourself plenty of time to accomplish a shallower turn and enough altitude to feel safe and still have ample runway remaining. Sounds like good (fun) practice. It's unfortunate this fellow has drawn such negative attention to the practice.
It's stuff like that "circle" that calls into question decision making. Risk vs reward and all that. Is it really worth misjudging that turn for a shorter taxi time?
Whatever. Just wish I hadn't been reminded that people like this exist. Thanks OP
Just for sake argument, when he was asked what he wanted to do by the tower controller, couldn't he have requested to circle to the north for 33? Meaning a turn to the left, forming a base. Seems like a relatively safe way to set up the circling maneuver from the ILS 28 to land 33.
I'm sure he could have, and I think the tribal knowledge I've heard in the past has you line up with 28L (vs R) before making the right turn, giving you more time and altitude to execute it. But since Oakland Int'l is essentially two airports joined by taxiway B (they used to have two towers because the old tower couldn't see both sides of the field), you can't circle so far west that you start conflicting with the airline traffic on runway 30-12.
Edit: I haven't listened to the video with sound yet, so I'm not exactly sure what he requested and was cleared for when executing that.
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