I meant the history in terms of seniority and what pilots expect. They see in the past this happened and that happened, so for us in the future, this is what's going to most likely happen. And when it doesn't, they are disappointed. A guy above posted post 9/11 BK era wages but that is a one off thing. It's not accurate for a long term comparison. Pay and contracts are the same thing and think they are "of equals." The reality is the airlines are not equals. Too many pilots only think equipment and that's the end of their logic line. "I fly an A320, so I should get what a Delta A320 pilot gets." They completely ignore that Delta is a 40 billion entity while Frontier is a fraction of that. The business model, the airline's revenue, operating costs, everything, is different. Your comments on "send this garbage back" is somewhat ironic, because if this proposal is defined as "garbage" I don't know what you would call your current pay/contract. Based on your current package, this is significantly higher than what you have now. It isn't perfect, isn't legacy mainline, but a close enough to Spirit and within the same tier of airline Frontier is. How much more do you expect? And say you turn this down and then get your ask in 1.5 yrs with no change to the 75 million retro. Would that be "worth it?" Of course that's assuming the industry doesn't tank in the next year or two.There you go upup I didn’t want to put words into his mouth. Pretty disgraceful! I pray Frontier has enough people with more self respect (a shred would be all that it would take), not to mention respect for others, than this know it all to send this garbage back.
Cherokee the rest of your statement is a contradiction you have been arguing that we have to follow the ordained patterns and decisions by the NMB and arbitrators and then you give us an example of how they were broken, do you not see that it’s like you wrote a response for me?
As far as legacy rates I’ve never said what I’m expecting just what I won’t accept.