Discussion in 'General Topics' started by KLB, Nov 7, 2017.
That didn't take long.
This is one of 5 that have been delivered IIRC.
Apparently a relatively new private pilot from that ESPN article.
Sad that people have to die in an airplane to prove it is a terrible design.
That’s a real bummer... I always enjoyed watching him pitch.
Looking at his Twitter is pretty crazy too. The last 5 or so posts are all pretty much ads for the Icon A5
New "Doctor Killer" ??
(CNN)Pitcher Roy Halladay, who won two Cy Young awards and more than 200 major league baseball games during a stellar career, died Tuesday in a plane crash off the Florida coast, authorities said.
Halladay, 40, was the only person on the two-seater plane that crashed just off Holiday, on Florida's Gulf coast north of the Tampa Bay area, Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco said.
The single-engine plane, an Icon A5, crashed in very shallow water and was found upside down.
According to the Pasco County Sheriff's office, a 911 call came in at 12:06 p.m. ET saying that a small plane had crashed.
Halladay pitched parts of 16 seasons in the major leagues, the first 12 with the Toronto Blue Jays. He won the Cy Young for the Jays in 2003, when he went 22-7 with a 3.25 ERA and led the American League with nine complete games.
He was traded to the Philadelphia Phillies before the 2010 season and won another Cy Young in his first year with the team. That season he went 21-10 with a 2.44 ERA and threw a perfect game in the regular season and a no-hitter in his first postseason start.
"There are no words to describe the sadness that the entire Phillies family is feeling over the loss of one of the most respected human beings to ever play the game," a team statement said. "It is with the heaviest of hearts that we pass along our condolences to (his wife) Brandy, (and sons) Ryan and Braden."
"He was one in a million," said Nocco, the sheriff, who was a friend of Halladay's. "It is a true loss for us. ... His heart was a heart of gold. He was an unbelievable human being."
I’ve read the purchase agreement pretty much absolves the manufacturer of everything.
Legit curious here - what specifically about the design? I made an earlier post following the other A5 accident where I expressed concern for bird strikes to the canopy given the aircraft's mission/location. What design elements did you have in mind?
This is particularly sad for our Aviation Authority - we run TPF where Icon has a demo center. They were very active during last weekend's AOPA fly-in.
I don’t know that that is true. It reminds me of the early Cirrus accidents before the marketing department realized that people still had to, you know, “do pilot shiz, Mav!”
There is a covenant not to sue but you can opt out of it for $10k. Pay them to have the option to sue them. Say whuh?
Wonder how it works if you didn’t buy it. I’m sure his was given to him for advertising. Granted I’m sure money is not an issue for his family he had some pretty good contracts
Honestly, I don't think it's a bad design. In fact all the reports I've read about the airplane say it's a great little airplane that handels great, and performs reasonably well for it's class. However, the marketing strategy of "a jet ski with wings" and the abreviated training program gave me pause from day one. Landing an airplane on the water always has been and always will be fraught with risk.
FYI, I also think the Crirrus is the best single engine airplane on the market, but the CAPS parachute is irrelevant to me.
Very sad. Halladay was a hell of a pitcher.
The really sad part of this story is that he got the plane on Oct 13th and now, less than a month later.......
Yes, I realized I had double posted. They merged the thread.
I shouldn't have said the design is terrible. I haven't seen it in person and I sure as heck haven't flown one. However, the marketing of the plane is terribly misleading. As you pointed out, they are selling people on the idea that it's easy to fly. While most of us find flying to be relatively easy, I don't think a manufacturer should be claiming it is easier to fly than any other airplane. I think that could make people too comfortable from day 1 when they should be uncomfortable until they've owned it for a while and gotten more experience in that particular plane...just like the marketing of the Cirrus as the safest plane because it has a parachute.
And one more thing, there are so many other planes that I would rather own for $200k. That's another reason I personally think it is terrible.
I'm not sure the design had much to do with this crash...
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