FAA Re Authorization Section 744

BobDDuck

Island Bus Driver
#1
There is a small item in the upcoming FAA re authorization bill that tasks the FAA with studying the feasibility of single pilot operations with a first officer linked in remotely (and, in theory operating dozens of flights at the same time) for cargo operations only. Obviously there is a huge potentiality decrease in safety related to this. A Pennsylvania rep has proposed amendment that strikes Section 744 from the bill, but it will need support. ALPA is running a call to action. The form didn't require a log in so I don't think you have to be an ALPA member to fill it out and send it to your reps (it will auto populate who to send it to based off of your address).


Do it. Now.


http://www.alpa.org/advocacy/cta/faa-744
 

av8tr1

"Never tell me the odds!"
#10
So what the FOs get to build time sitting on the ground?????

There are all sorts of redneck phrases I want to use to describe how stupid this is but I don't think Doug's filters will allow it.
 

Seggy

Well-Known Member
#14
ALPA may have really screwed up by flat out opposing this study....say it was included in the reauthorization but FAA had oversight of it and was able to draw from all the players in the industry including ALPA. This would allow ALPA to show how awful this automation could be and show the world that this automation isn’t near being ready. Put simply, there is nothing to study as the technology (not to mention the regulations) isn’t even close to being ready for large scale transport category aircraft to be flown single pilot....that’s what needs to get out there and a well done, public study will show that and be a cornerstone for the argument going forward in why taking a pilot out of the cockpit is a bad idea.

Yet say this funding gets denied and FedEx and UPS do their own independent studies on this concept instead....How do you think they will turn out?
 

ATN_Pilot

Socialist Pig Member
#17
ALPA may have really screwed up by flat out opposing this study....say it was included in the reauthorization but FAA had oversight of it and was able to draw from all the players in the industry including ALPA. This would allow ALPA to show how awful this automation could be and show the world that this automation isn’t near being ready. Put simply, there is nothing to study as the technology (not to mention the regulations) isn’t even close to being ready for large scale transport category aircraft to be flown single pilot....that’s what needs to get out there and a well done, public study will show that and be a cornerstone for the argument going forward in why taking a pilot out of the cockpit is a bad idea.

Yet say this funding gets denied and FedEx and UPS do their own independent studies on this concept instead....How do you think they will turn out?
Interesting take. And I think I might agree.
 

BobDDuck

Island Bus Driver
#19
Interesting take. And I think I might agree.
It's kind of similar to the age 65 issue. If it's going to go forward (and I'm less sure this would move forward than 65 was assured to), it's probably better to be part of the process. Ideally you just kill it from the beginning, but FedUPS is going to keep pushing this.
 

ATN_Pilot

Socialist Pig Member
#20
It's kind of similar to the age 65 issue. If it's going to go forward (and I'm less sure this would move forward than 65 was assured to), it's probably better to be part of the process. Ideally you just kill it from the beginning, but FedUPS is going to keep pushing this.
I actually think this is MORE inevitable than 65. It’s really just a question of the timing at this point, not if it’ll happen. The development of artificial consciousness is virtually certain within our lifetimes, so the idea of one less pilot in the cockpit in less time than that is hardly a radical idea.
 
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