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Delta and ASA

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Der_Meister, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. BEEF SUPREME

    BEEF SUPREME Well-Known Member

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    We had an ASA jumpseater last night and we did our best to accommodate and both of us were as absolutely nice and professional as possible. The bad decision of a different crew from a different airline are not relevant to my decision making process. Granted I'm not making the final decision but I'm here to support anyone who can ride in any seat in my aircraft who needs to go to work or get home.

    Last I checked I wasn't in the boardroom with Chip shouting "burn it all down." Nor were any of the other pilots I work with or see.

    As far as I'm concerned we are all in this together. I'd love to work for a union shop but SKW was my best choice for my marriage and family remaining intact. That's why I'm here.


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  2. chrisreedrules

    chrisreedrules Master Blaster

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    No ones hatin playa, keep on playin.
     
  3. Cherokee_Cruiser

    Cherokee_Cruiser Well-Known Member

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    Curious though, what if one regional pilot group takes a concessionary agreement in order to secure new flying at the expense of another pilot group that didn't?
     
  4. Baronman

    Baronman Well-Known Member

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    There would be a blurb in the Alpa magazine congratulating the pilots on their new contract. That's about it.
     
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  5. mshunter

    mshunter Well-Known Member

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    I saw a jumpseat O2 mask get broken over that.
     
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    phill1174 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like there's a interesting story behind this.
     
  7. 03sport007

    03sport007 New Member

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    That's been happening long before the Skywest vote!!! As a former Comair pilot I know how bad this sucks and I wish everybody the best!
     
  8. mshunter

    mshunter Well-Known Member

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    Not really. A PSA guy was up in the gate trying to get somewhere, right after they voted yes, and the jump seat had to be deferred.
     
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  9. MikeD

    MikeD Administrator Staff Member

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    That being said; if two entities are going to engage in a JS war, the key to it is escalation, escalation, escalation, as early and as often as possible. Nothing less than total commitment to a war of attrition.

    They deny one of yours a seat? You deny 5 of theirs.

    They misroute 3 of your guys to Kingman? You ship 10 of theirs on a last flight of the day to Roswell.

    And so on and so on.
     
  10. ComplexHiAv8r

    ComplexHiAv8r Well-Known Member

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    The Chicago way?


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  11. MikeD

    MikeD Administrator Staff Member

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    Exactly! :D
     
  12. Screaming_Emu

    Screaming_Emu You people

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    “Industry leading...”
     
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  13. Dexter

    Dexter Hop off there, Blonde Ambition Tour

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    Angry lifer doesn't help a guy get home who's new contract influenced the regional world in no way.
     
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  14. PhilosopherPilot

    PhilosopherPilot Well-Known Member

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    It's a sad thing to watch.
     
  15. mshunter

    mshunter Well-Known Member

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    Yes it did. In a huge way.

    But I do agree with the "angry lifer" part.
     
  16. NC-Sean

    NC-Sean Well-Known Member

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    There is lots of us out there! Even in Utah believe it or not. Of course there is also 53% that is raised to have no critical thinking skills or to question authority...so there's that.
     
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  17. Jordan93

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    I've never JS on XJT but I've DH on them quite a few times and they're always good to me. Hope it works out for the pilots and FAs
     
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  18. JetDoc

    JetDoc Delta profit sharing contributor.

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    Unless you have traveled another man or woman's journey, I would be careful throwing around the term "angry lifer". You simply just don't know.
     
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  19. Nark

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    Yes and no.

    If you're angry that the FO's you used to fly with are leaving in droves to a legacy, and you're "stuck." I question to why you are stuck.
    No degree, that's on you, no one else.
    Financially, can't "take the first year hit." Again, that's on you.
    A few too many checkrides failures, DUI's etc.. again, that's on you.
    Haven't bothered to update your log book in 12 years, see the pattern here?

    Sure, their are legitimate reasons why someone can't move on from a regional. Most are self inflicted.
    Most solutions take time, and as pilots we have little to no paitiemce.
     
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  20. JordanD

    JordanD Sizeable Member

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    Took L-XJT in the jump pretty frequently and was always welcomed, fwiw.
     

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