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CLT "turn xxx THEN contact departure"

Discussion in 'Air Traffic Control' started by AAPalmTree, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. Stone Cold

    Stone Cold Well-Known Member

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    Sounds exactly like the Moscow region also, except you wait until 5,000' to transition to meters. Also, nobody realizes it but they have speed schedules for you to go by but never, ever use them.

    Edit: And just to mess people up, St. Petersburg went to QNH ops at the beginning of the month but everywhere else in Russia, as far as I know, is QFE.
     
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  2. A80TRACON

    A80TRACON Well-Known Member

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    Caution jet blast, give way to the 737 in the grass

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  3. Derg

    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    Welcome to SVO!

    But then a lot of the WUTEVA-1A/2C/3D/blah arrivals are airway dependent, but you have to do a little digging. I'm too lazy to grab my Surface (which is probably dead because it hasn't been on the charger for 24 hours) to look for an example.

    Besides, there's what, 50 of you guys in a 747 cockpit? One of you mark-assed busters can't figure this out? Millennials… :)
     
  4. Screaming_Emu

    Screaming_Emu Whale Barista

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    Trump is gonna fix all that!
     
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  5. Derg

    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    Best EFB evah. Everyone agrees. My friends, it's bigly.

    We're not going to Mars, are we?
     
  6. Stone Cold

    Stone Cold Well-Known Member

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    IN (Sukhotino) or FK (Gagarin) most likely were the fixes, with the associated arrivals. So it's the IN 1,2, or 3E transition, OKLIT or BESTA arrival, or Ivanovskoye (UM) or Savelovo (SW) arrival.

    Bring back memories? ;) The sad part is I only had to look up one of the names to know all of that. Easy peasy!
     
  7. Derg

    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    Vaguely! I do remember the coffee-can microphone and "Southernjets 42, report position!" every 45 seconds during the arrival and approach.
     
  8. Stone Cold

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    Y'all must have been screwing up then. I've never had them ask my position and I've been here for over 6 years now. Haha. :D

    Y'all haven't been 42 for years...I think they used 447/448 or something similar this past summer. I only was able to ride on your air line once this summer.
     
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    German ATC, " give me your fuel remaining and do not lie".
     
  10. MikeD

    MikeD Administrator Staff Member

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    Back in the day for me, change to departure was given concurrent with the takeoff clearance. "Ghost 7, wind 240 at 5, Runway 23 cleared for takeoff, change to departure."

    I imagine if tower needed to get a hold of me for any reason, they'd use departure override mode, or just use Guard.
     
  11. NovemberEcho

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    That's fighters only iirc. Aka single-piloted tactical aircraft
     
  12. Pilotdude3407

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    Why has CLT axed the runway connected rnav dept? Everything is a heading now on dept and then they give you vectors to an rnav fix. Our IBTs, PIFs, and sim stuff seems to be DOMINATED by how not to F up flying a wrong runway dept in CLT. I assume we have pilots that continue to load the wrong runway in and then get a different runway so they make a turn across traffic when airborne. I can't imagine CLT getting pissed enough at us to take it away from everyone.
     
  13. learhawkerbe400

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    I can definitely see ATC getting pissed enough to take it away. Just listen to guys check in when they're descending via a STAR. "Uhhh, approach, uhh merkan 2125, uhhh we're descending uhhh 14,500 descending 5000". Approach "confirm descending via the whatever arrival RW XX transition and you have the atis".

    Every. F'ing. Time. I'd lose it if I was a controller.
     
  14. The G-Man

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    Or Langen's favorite "descend 1-2 thousand, 1500 feet per minute or greater"


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  15. gotWXdagain

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    It's going to be that beeping tone you'll hear right off the end of the runway.
     
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    or ORD ever.
    "Buzzsaw 5185 runway whatever follow the guy in front of you Skidoo 5156 runway whatever follow the buzzsaw Southernjets 1751, Repugnant 4781 and Skiddo 5111 monitor the tower 126.7, Deathstar 181 runway 22L alpha bravo zulu <breath without unkeying>"
     
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    A buddy of mine transferred from ORD twr to CLT twr and while training they kept having to tell him to stop talking so fast and breath lol
     
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    In order to receive Ground's immediate, full, and undivided attention, stop aircraft.
     
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    "Say again?"
     
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