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Avianca pilot dispute (IFALPA Letter)


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If you work for UAL write or call the chairman of the Alliance and Scope Oversight Committee, Alberto Gaspari

If you work for Delta e-mail their Scope and Alliance Chairman, Luigie Martinez

IFALPA is having a big conference in Luxembourg next week. Write Ron Abel, The President at ronabel@ifalpa.org

The point is to express concern for the actions of Avianca management's treatment of union pilots who are being terminated in conflict with the back to work agreement that was overseen by a government tribunal stipulating that no retaliation would be taken against the striking pilots.


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Why is the Avianca pilot group split in union representation? When my MAD-BOG leg was cancelled due to the strike, I was told only half their pilots were impacted by it.
Avianca is not a closed shop like in the U.S.. The ACDAC pilots went on strike, while the others who had elected not to be part of the union kept working. Not an optimal situation for sure and that certainly undermined ACDAC's ability to stage an effective strike, but that point is off topic really. The present issue is that union pilots fighting for better pay and working conditions in what was really a legal strike (only declared "illegal" by the government despite the ILO definitions of public service) are being terminated. The dismissals for union involvement and terminations to deter the future rights to bargain are the main points to be discussing here.


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Bad phrasing in that letter I think. The point is that terminations like this go against basic laws agreed upon by OECD member states detailing worker's rights. At least I think that is what he meant to say.
No, he meant exactly what he said. The ability to freely associate, organize, assemble, withhold services, etc. are all natural rights.


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In 2001 when Cathay Pacific terminated 51 pilots for union activities IFALPA in conjunction with the HKAOA instituted a "Recruitment Ban" on Cathay and asked that no professional pilot accept a job offer with Cathay:

https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/2002/2002 - 1704.PDF

Something similar should be done for Avianca. Blatant union busting at a United Airlines partner to keep their labor costs sub-standard should be a concern for U.S. pilots. It's your flying that will be transferred to the lower cost provider.


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Strong momentum is building thanks to the UAL and DAL Scope and Alliance committees. Letters have gone out from ALPA and IFALPA condemning the actions of Avianca management. IFALPA has a meeting coming up this week in Luxembourg, hopefully more comes out of that.


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Ooooo, they've condemned management. Sounds pretty scary. I bet management will get right on it, now that they've been condemned.


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Juan Manuel Santos Calderón
President of Colombia
Calle 7 N° 6-54
Santa Fe de Bogota, Colombia

Dear President Santos:

I am writing on behalf of the Air Line Pilots Association, International (“ALPA”), which represents more than 60,000 airline pilots at 34 air carriers in the United States and Canada.

We are deeply disturbed about the anti-union tactics by Avianca Airlines (“Avianca”) that are being used against their pilots. These tactics which have been on-going for some time have now escalated to a level that cannot be tolerated. We are advised that the president of the Association Colombiana de Aviadores Civiles (“ACDAC”) was terminated from his employment for carrying out his legitimate union activities. Additionally, Avianca has filed unwarranted criminal charges against him. We understand that Avianca is planning similar discipline for many more pilots for supporting their union ACDAC. This deplorable anti-union conduct cannot be tolerated as it violates the pilots and other workers’ basic human rights to collectively bargain for pay and working conditions and not be subjected to discrimination because of union membership. This conduct, in our view, violates the Labor Action Plan (“LAP”) in the current trade agreement between the United States and Colombia and the International Labor Organization Conventions CO87 and CO98 that Colombia has ratified which protects workers’ rights to organize, bargain collectively, and engage in industrial action.

Avianca’s intimidating actions have nullified the “non-punitive” or “positive safety culture” that ICAO has mandated in Annex 19. Safety is a pilot’s number one priority. When there are distractions and concerns about employment status, and confrontational work relationships with the employer, that will impact a pilot’s ability to focus on his/her primary function which is operating the aircraft safely. In addition, we understand that Avianca plans to replace significant numbers of the well-trained and experienced unionized Colombian pilots that it plans to terminate with foreign workers on a temporary or permanent basis. Permitting Avianca to implement such a drastic plan of action would be contrary to flight safety. Avianca needs to change its course and work to reestablish the necessary trust with their pilots to regain a “positive safety culture.”

Your Excellency, we respectfully ask that you investigate the deplorable labor relations at Avianca and use your office to foster a mutually agreeable solution to this matter. The unfair treatment of the Avianca pilots is receiving international attention and we believe your image will be enhanced if you champion the basic human rights of Colombian workers.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.


Captain Tim Canoll, President
Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l


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Allied Pilots Association: Pilots and Passengers of Avianca Airlines “Deserve Better”

FORT WORTH, Texas (March 12, 2018) – In response to deteriorating relations between Avianca Airlines management and the carrier’s pilots represented by the Colombian Pilots’ Union (ACDAC), Allied Pilots Association President Capt. Daniel F. Carey issued the following statement:

“Avianca management has engaged in blatant union-busting by subjecting union leaders and union members alike to arbitrary discipline proceedings. Management has even brought criminal charges against the union president. These heavy-handed tactics can only serve to distract and have no place in a highly safety-sensitive industry like ours. The dedicated professional pilots who fly for Avianca deserve better, and so do the passengers who place their trust in the airline.

“APA concurs with the assessment of the International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations that Avianca management’s conduct violates the Labor Action Plan in the current U.S.-Colombia Trade Promotion Agreement and the International Labor Organization Fundamental Conventions 87 & 98. In accordance with these in-force agreements, the pilots of Avianca have the right to organize, bargain collectively, and engage in industrial action.

“We likewise concur with IFALPA that Avianca management’s conduct runs counter to the International Civil Aviation Organization’s recommendations regarding the need for a non-punitive safety culture.

“For these reasons and for the good of all concerned, we urge Avianca management to take a different approach — one that conforms to international norms and respects the legitimate rights of Avianca’s pilots.

“APA representatives will remain in close contact with our brother and sister pilots at Avianca, and we stand ready to help.”

Founded in 1963, the Allied Pilots Association — the largest independent pilots union in the United States — is headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas. APA represents the 15,000 pilots of American Airlines, including several hundred pilots on full-time military leave of absence serving in the armed forces. The union’s website is AlliedPilots.org. American Airlines is the world’s largest passenger airline.


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As of yesterday Avianca management have terminated 104 pilots who were involved in the strike. This goes against the back to work agreement brokered by the government.

Since United is doing a JV with Avianca I would really like to see the United pilots fight for the Avianca pilots. Well, I would like to see all ALPA pilots and APA pilots fight for them. It's in your own best interest to do so, otherwise United just shifts their international growth in South America to Avianca with their much lower cost structure. Avianca pilots make less than Norwegian, but ALPA has everyone wound up about that instead of focusing on imminent threats and injustices like what is happening in Colombia.
As much as I see their plight, I'm not inclined to do anything about it nor will any effort on my part make a difference. Sorry. Thousands of pilots slogging it out in the regional/LCC trenches are still being underpaid by their respective carriers and underrepresented by ALPA to give two rat's behinds


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As much as I see their plight, I'm not inclined to do anything about it nor will any effort on my part make a difference. Sorry. Thousands of pilots slogging it out in the regional/LCC trenches are still being underpaid by their respective carriers and underrepresented by ALPA to give two rat's behinds
Out of curiosity, what are you doing to improve the plight of those thousands of regional and lcc pilots?


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As much as I see their plight, I'm not inclined to do anything about it nor will any effort on my part make a difference. Sorry. Thousands of pilots slogging it out in the regional/LCC trenches are still being underpaid by their respective carriers and underrepresented by ALPA to give two rat's behinds
While you’re right that nothing anybody does here is going to help them at Avianca, the idea that ALPA is “underrepresenting” you is asinine. While the Delta MEC gets to keep 30 cents of their dues dollar for local use, the average regional MEC is getting to keep all of their dues dollars local AND getting some of the left over Delta dues dollar. The majors subsidize the regionals. That’s the reality. Regardless of what your angry, bitter, lifer captain who’s never done a day of ALPA work in his life tells you.