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Another Medical Deferral question... Alcohol

Discussion in 'Ask A Flight Surgeon' started by B0432, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. B0432

    B0432 New Member

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    I know this issue has been posted several times, i have been getting very conflicting opinions from different "professionals" about an issue.

    Basically to sum it all up, i had an arrest 11years ago for DWI, no conviction... Blew under .15. This was before i held any kind of certificate or medical. Not sure that matters but some i have talked to say it does... Last year an arrest for DWI again non conviction, again under the .15 Bac.

    Only administrative actions with drivers license came of both of these.. All charges/records were expunged from 11 years ago after completing 2 year probation... I have still reported arrest on medical every year even tho it was expunged.
    FAA is asking for all court/police reports on both offenses, personal statement, past 10yrs of driving record. The record from 11 years ago again was expunged so it does not show up on any of my state driving record, but i report it none the less...
    I have seen people post about this same letter, it specifically says on the letter i have not been denied. They just want more information to see if im in compliance. Also like other posts I have seen, they are not asking me to do a substance abuse evaluation, only provide all documents of offenses and record with personal statement, no evaluation is required by them as of now.

    My understanding is that everyone that gets this letter is usually required to do an eval along with everything else i have listed.

    My question is, should i just do an eval ahead of time and send with the info they request? Even though not required to do so at this point? Time is of an issue as i fly for a living... Only a month until my current 2nd class expires.

    Thank you for any info.
     
  2. B0432

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    I do realize i am at the mercy of the Faa here and my time issue to them does not matter, i also realize these offenses were my doing and i have had to suffer the consequences of them especially this last one.
    With that said this has been a sobering experience and i have immensely changed my drinking habits. I didnt drink that much before i had this last offense. Really dont drink but seldomly now since, and certianly do not even touch a vehicle even only having a single drink...

    Just asking for some info, not asking to be judged for my stupid mistakes as I know i am my worst critic with this issue.
    Thanks
     
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    I had an OVI arrest 4 yrs ago; didn't report it to FAA then (had no clue); I reported it last summer while renewing my 2nd class medical, gave them all the info, got my medical approved, then got a letter that no more action is required and that they will keep this info on file for 3 years then purge it.
     
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    Called the folks at aviation medicine in the link... Told me that they dont see my circumstances being denied a medical and need to just wait to hear from Faa.

    Got a letter in the mail yesterday, application for new medical denied and require me to do HIMS. I am temporarily grounded, meaning cant even use 3rd class privileges until i do the Hims evaluation and get the outcome of that....
    Worked hard for 10 years to get where i am today... And its all taken away just like that. To anyone out there, its not worth it. Even if u only have a couple drinks. Have someone else drive or sleep in your vehicle.

    Awaiting my eval now hopefully next week....
     
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    I'm sorry for your trouble, honestly. What follows is not meant for the OP, but for those who desire a different future.

    Just don't. Don't drink and drive. Ever, not even "one with dinner." Find a designated driver. Use Uber. Call a cab. Drink at home. Draw an unyielding line, and don't cross it.

    Don't drink and drive.

    Ever.

    The cab or Uber fare is nothing compared to legal fees, HIMS time and expense, the loss of a dream ...

    I personally drink like a fish, and enjoy a fine beverage ... at home, or with a designated driver. No teetotaler, I work in a system where I see daily the cost to individuals and families of poor choice. This forum is rife with examples of those who paid a price far greater than they imagined until the moment they were caught "just over the limit" and a dream began to fade.

    It is never, ever worth the cost of a DWI or DWAI (driving while intoxicated or with ability impaired).

    Just don't.

    Ever.

    And for God's sake, don't just sleep in your car if you have been drinking - at least in New York State. Get home in a cab, with Uber, or a designated driver, if you won't blow a clean breathalyzer. It can AND DOES serve here as prima facie evidence of DWI or DWAI.

    End of sermon ...
     
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    Well said sir, but uber or a taxi is not available in rural america where i live. Still no excuse i understand that.
    Thank you for being respectful and not chastising like alot of others would.
    Also where im from if keys are not in ignition and your impaired sleeping in your vehicle you are within the law.
     
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    Cptnchia Well-Known Member

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    Same in the Carolinas. There has to be intent to drive. Either keys in ignition, or in your hand. Place them under the front seat and sleep in the back and you're GTG.
     

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