Amazon Job in KY

A1TAPE

Well-Known Member
#2
Doesn't seem like it
look at the required quals
Bachelor’s Degree, ATP Certification, or FAA Aircraft Dispatcher Certification
If it was a DX job it would require a FAA ADX cert
here its saying that you can be hired with either a Bachelors OR and ATP cert OR an ADX cert.
 

who'swho

Don't hesitate. Penetrate!
#4
Hey yall....is this a dispatching job? The description seems like NOT.

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/663322/network-coordination-center-flight-specialist

" Network Coordination Center Flight Specialist" I know Atlas/Polar are here but I thought Amazon was with the teams in Wilmington OH.

This seems like a Dx Helper job, or Asst Dx, or something kinda weird.
It's not a dispatch position. Amazon doesn't do any dispatching. It's a coordinator position. They are now in the old Comair G.O. building in CVG.
 

pljenkins

Resident Knucklehead
#8
From what I've seen and heard, Amazon is intending to obtain an operating certificate and take operations in house. Ostensibly, this would be a 121 flag certificate and would require the requisite staff (read: dispatchers). As of now, Amazon is either directly leasing aircraft or fronting the cost for Atlas to lease the aircraft and having them operate it as an ACMI agreement.

Bottom line, it's a risk, but if it is what I think it is you're getting in on what could very well be a UPS/FedEx level operation at the ground floor. If you're young, dumb, and full of.... ambition.... it might be worth it. Trust me, Bezos has plenty of money to see this thing through. If he wants it to happen, it WILL happen.
 

pljenkins

Resident Knucklehead
#10
Amazon isn't going to obtain a cert at all. The sub contracting of carriers is their MOA.
Doesn't sound like the conversation I had with the new Director of NCC the other day.

Aside from that, I can't see how they can appropriately scale their operation to the level befitting of Amazon's business using strictly ACMI contracts. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but from what I gather the amount of packages Amazon moves each day ranges from a crap-load to a metric-f***ton, depending on the season.
 
#11
Doesn't sound like the conversation I had with the new Director of NCC the other day.

Aside from that, I can't see how they can appropriately scale their operation to the level befitting of Amazon's business using strictly ACMI contracts. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but from what I gather the amount of packages Amazon moves each day ranges from a crap-load to a metric-f***ton, depending on the season.
Can't whipsaw carriers against each other to keep costs low if you do the flying yourself...
 

4EngineETOPS

Well-Known Member
#12
Doesn't sound like the conversation I had with the new Director of NCC the other day.

Aside from that, I can't see how they can appropriately scale their operation to the level befitting of Amazon's business using strictly ACMI contracts. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but from what I gather the amount of packages Amazon moves each day ranges from a crap-load to a metric-f***ton, depending on the season.
I'm not an analyst by any means, but you'd think there's some critical mass at which it makes more sense to do your own flying than ACMI it.
 

A320guy

Well-Known Member
#14
Have any of you guys heard of DHL, which amazon is currently using all their facilities at CVG. Amazon can sub contract the of cargo airlines and be very profitable. DHL has dozens of airlines flying for them with hundreds of planes.
 
#15
Have any of you guys heard of DHL, which amazon is currently using all their facilities at CVG. Amazon can sub contract the of cargo airlines and be very profitable. DHL has dozens of airlines flying for them with hundreds of planes.
That's a completely different situation. DHL is not legally able to own the majority of a US airline
 

pljenkins

Resident Knucklehead
#16
Can't whipsaw carriers against each other to keep costs low if you do the flying yourself...
At the volume of work that is being proposed, I don't think there's much need to whipsaw. ACMI carriers are going to be falling all over themselves to get into this line of work. Either way, cost isn't the only reason to bring your operation in-house.
 

z987k

Well-Known Member
#17
From what I've seen and heard, Amazon is intending to obtain an operating certificate and take operations in house. Ostensibly, this would be a 121 flag certificate and would require the requisite staff (read: dispatchers). As of now, Amazon is either directly leasing aircraft or fronting the cost for Atlas to lease the aircraft and having them operate it as an ACMI agreement.

Bottom line, it's a risk, but if it is what I think it is you're getting in on what could very well be a UPS/FedEx level operation at the ground floor. If you're young, dumb, and full of.... ambition.... it might be worth it. Trust me, Bezos has plenty of money to see this thing through. If he wants it to happen, it WILL happen.
If you don't know that I'm not sure how you could form an educated opinion on the subject.
 

Kev

RNP 2112
#18
Amazon getting their certificate is not speculation. It's a fact.

My boss at my last airline left a COO position to head over and work on it. This week I learned that a big wig left Southwest to get in on the ground floor as well.
 

DogwoodLynx

Well-Known Member
#19
Amazon getting their certificate is not speculation. It's a fact.

My boss at my last airline left a COO position to head over and work on it. This week I learned that a big wig left Southwest to get in on the ground floor as well.
Whenever they get their certificate, I'm totally in (if I get an opportunity)!
 

4EngineETOPS

Well-Known Member
#20
Amazon getting their certificate is not speculation. It's a fact.

My boss at my last airline left a COO position to head over and work on it. This week I learned that a big wig left Southwest to get in on the ground floor as well.
Would this be a good move to get into something like this while foregoing the regionals for a year or two to see what develops? Or is the opportunity cost of a year or two of regional experience not worth it?
 
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