1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

AAL Scheduling glitch

Discussion in 'Airline Pilots' started by azmedic, Nov 29, 2017.

  1. azmedic

    azmedic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Messages:
    1,118
    Likes Received:
    1,234
  2. mastermags

    mastermags Well-Known Member *giggity*

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,133
    Likes Received:
    2,362
    It seems whenever Delta IT bones something up, American and United are always right there to bail them out.
     
  3. Soku39

    Soku39 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,154
    Likes Received:
    732
    They're gonna have to pay more than 150%...
     
  4. L-16B

    L-16B Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    885
    The amount of open time over the holidays is insane. They are acrewed until they offer 3-400% pay
     
  5. SmoothLanderJ

    SmoothLanderJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    1,311
    Likes Received:
    302
    Unbelievable....

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
     
    azmedic likes this.
  6. Autothrust Blue

    Autothrust Blue "How can you be so obtuse?"

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Messages:
    17,564
    Likes Received:
    10,550
  7. Zapphod Beblebrox

    Zapphod Beblebrox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2014
    Messages:
    208
    Likes Received:
    190
    The learning curve for PBS is very steep on both sides. The Trip Trade system is a confusing mess and bad decisions and bids can bite pilots and management. Not to bash Scott Kirby, as he is no longer at AA, but he represents the promise, perils and failures of a very complex PBS system.To those types who live and breath by the "spread-sheet" and believe that the can micro manage the schedule; the education that a bad button push, or program miss-step can cost millions. Kind of like being a pilot.

    It seems to me that the spread sheet geeks are of the mind set that they can fly the last minute of the December schedule with the last reserve just timing out at 11:59, Dec. 31st. Every block holder does his schedule and all the pretty numbers add up just right. Not to much, not to little, just micro-manage this thing to the Nth degree like they taught us in MBA school.

    At the pilot school house they teach CAMI when dealing with the FMS. Confirm, Activate, Monitor and Intervene (if necessary). Somebody messed up a step in the scheduling department. I guess and the company December schedule is heading direct to ed UP instead of direct to the happy customer waypoint.
     
  8. azmedic

    azmedic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Messages:
    1,118
    Likes Received:
    1,234
    Skåning likes this.
  9. Soku39

    Soku39 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,154
    Likes Received:
    732
    God PBS sounds horrible... I will forever love PSA's SAP until they take it away from us.
     
  10. L-16B

    L-16B Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    885
    This has absolutely zero to do with PBS whatsoever. This was a glitch in the green / red TTOT system where trips were green and people were allowed to drop their trips.
     
  11. Zapphod Beblebrox

    Zapphod Beblebrox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2014
    Messages:
    208
    Likes Received:
    190
    OK, my bad. However the CAMI analogy still applies. Somebody didn't monitor and intervene in time to stop a gross airline navigation error.
     
    azmedic likes this.
  12. learhawkerbe400

    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    938
    Likes Received:
    984
    Hey remember when you said APA was going to cave and allow the company to put the trips people dropped back on their lines? I do!
     
  13. learhawkerbe400

    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    938
    Likes Received:
    984
    You think TTS is confusing? I don’t know how it could get any easier.
     
    Kingairer likes this.
  14. Screaming_Emu

    Screaming_Emu You people

    Joined:
    May 29, 2002
    Messages:
    15,017
    Likes Received:
    17,361
    I felt the same way about ASAs PBS. I’d love to see it at Air beachball.
     
  15. L-16B

    L-16B Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    885
    Name one good thing APA has ever done?
     
  16. L-16B

    L-16B Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    885
    I’ve had good luck with TTS overall. Over the summer I traded away every single trip with it. Of course I miss SAP
     
    Kingairer likes this.
  17. jtrain609

    jtrain609 I'm a carnal, organic anagram.

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2002
    Messages:
    27,820
    Likes Received:
    9,279
    I hate to break this to you, but you have both the best functioning, and easiest to work PBS software in the industry. If the kids at American can't figure it out, I have no idea how they can be trusted to program an FMS.

    I'd do...things, to get AOS back.
     
    learhawkerbe400 likes this.
  18. learhawkerbe400

    learhawkerbe400 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    938
    Likes Received:
    984
    It’s stupid simple. I didn’t do any of the classes or online training and figured it out pretty quickly. And I’m by no means a computer genius.
     
    jtrain609 likes this.
  19. L-16B

    L-16B Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    885
    People confuse work rules with PBS programs. It’s my second PBS program to work under and its soooooo easy. I love it. People need to realize it’s some of the work rules they don’t like.
     
    Screaming_Emu and ATN_Pilot like this.
  20. jtrain609

    jtrain609 I'm a carnal, organic anagram.

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2002
    Messages:
    27,820
    Likes Received:
    9,279
    I didn't think it was trAAdition to have work rules at American.
     
    Tld likes this.

Share This Page