2000ft vs 35000 ft

ibcd

New Member
Here I was .... had all the ratings upto MEI .... loans all paid off ... eager to join a flight school ... and follow the path leading to the ultimate dream - "Window office at 35000 ft"

For 5 months toiled hard to find that elusive CFI job ... went far and wide looking for it ...
applied at tons of schools ... but heard the same line everywhere "Not hiring ... will call when we resume"

Ran out of money ... had to find flying/non-flying job .. whatever came my way first ...

Applied at a computer firm and got the job immediately ....

A week later received call from a flight school offering the job but could not accept .... had commited to the current one ...

Now I have a window office ... but not at 35000 ft ... the view is excellent but very disheartening ....

The reason ... Arrival path for visual RWY 31R at DFW is less than 2000ft from the window ...

Day in and day out I watch the RJs, Saab, EMB120s, 757s, 767s and sometimes the 777s gliding in gently ...

Wishing I was up there with them ...

There is hope and will ... and one day I will have my window office ... at 35000 ft ....
 

Derg

Cap, Roci
Staff member
Try and do the CFI thing on the weekends, or even try to get some instrument sim time work at night after work.

That's at least what I'd suggest
 

TigerFlyer

New Member
That's what I did. Bought a plane and am now flying my butt off after work and on weekends. Hope to get my rating and hope for the economy to turn around. Keep at it, any way that you can!
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
Screw flying in the Flight Levels anyways, you don't want to be up there. That's where all the coffee-cup-holder crews with their autopilots, epaulets, and FMSs hang out. Down and dirty at 100-300 AGL is the place to be.

So don't fret just yet. The opportunity will come
 

Jason

Well-Known Member
As an epaulet wearing, FMS/autopilot using, coffee cup holder I wholeheartedly agree with MikeD!! It really is quite boring up there unless you consider talking on the radio every 10 minutes exciting.

I would love to have a flying job at 300 feet!
I applied to the A10 unit in BDL for a UPT slot few years but didn't get invited for an interview - you know of anyone hiring?? ha

Jason
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
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As an epaulet wearing, FMS/autopilot using, coffee cup holder I wholeheartedly agree with MikeD!! It really is quite boring up there unless you consider talking on the radio every 10 minutes exciting.

I would love to have a flying job at 300 feet!
I applied to the A10 unit in BDL for a UPT slot few years but didn't get invited for an interview - you know of anyone hiring?? ha

Jason


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The flip side of the coin: The epaulet wearing, FMS using, coffee cup holding guy is probably making many $$$$ more than I am, tooling down in the dumps.

They get stewardesses too! Or FAs, or whatever they're called now.

Additionally, they're not being sent to every godforsaken dump the US can find in this world, and work an average of 10-20 days/month.
 

Jason

Well-Known Member
If I'm making more $$$ than an Air Force officer there is a HUGE problem with the Air Force pay scale! I'm compensated a whole $35K a year for the pleasure of being on call(1 hour report) 24/7 with no guaranteed days off.

As far as godforsaken dumps around the world - that's true - we generally only see the domestic godforsaken dumps. Ever spent 5 days in Big Piney Wyoming or Greenville MS??


Jason
 

MikeD

Administrator
Staff member
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As far as godforsaken dumps around the world - that's true - we generally only see the domestic godforsaken dumps. Ever spent 5 days in Big Piney Wyoming or Greenville MS??


Jason

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Not those exact places, but did spend 4 days at China Lake, California; 2 weeks at Gila Bend, AZ; and numerous trips to the middle-of-nowhere east New Mexico.
 

H46Bubba

Well-Known Member
Oooo! China Lake is really B.F.E.! Nice Golf course though. If only the wind wounldn't blow the ball everywhere and didn't have to drink water every second your out there due to the heat. My father in law was stationed there. He just retired after 35 yrs.
I prefer low and slow. You get to see the scenery. But when the weather rolls in, I'll take 35,000 any day
 

ready2fly

Well-Known Member
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Here I was .... had all the ratings upto MEI .... loans all paid off ... eager to join a flight school ... and follow the path leading to the ultimate dream - "Window office at 35000 ft"

For 5 months toiled hard to find that elusive CFI job ... went far and wide looking for it ...
applied at tons of schools ... but heard the same line everywhere "Not hiring ... will call when we resume"

Ran out of money ... had to find flying/non-flying job .. whatever came my way first ...

Applied at a computer firm and got the job immediately ....

A week later received call from a flight school offering the job but could not accept .... had commited to the current one ...

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So... let me get this straight:

You spent a buttload of money on getting your ratings - which you got all the way through MEI;

Couldn't find a flying job so you took something until a flying job came along;

THEN...

A flying job comes along... and you turn it down???????????

Sorry man, but that makes NO sense and I don't see your dilemma. Just MHO - but, I'd be out the door of that office and at the FBO quicker'n sh*t through a goose.

May be just me though.

R2F
 

E_Dawg

Moderator
Seriously... it's not like you owe them anything just because you were asked to work there.

Anyways it's probably too late to accept the flight job... but at least you can make some $$$, pay off some loans, and maybe buy a flight hour or two.
 

IrishSheepdog

Sitting in the median
Jason, I didn't realize your pay and schedule at your current job. I saw you post something about law school, and was wondering why anyone would want to leave a corporate job flying the equipment you do. Now I see...
 

ibcd

New Member
I would have loved to take that job, but had made a commitment to this place, so could not accept it. There is no dilemma, just bad timing :) .... The final goal is still getting to the cockpit. But now, it would happen later than the intial plan.
 

fr8dog

New Member
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But......

....awwww - forget it.

Good luck. I still would have jumped all over the flying job.

R2F

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Leaving a job u just got for a CFI job is not really what a national/major ailrine likes to see on a resume....this might (and i say might...) look unprofessional to a recruiter...Job stability and respect of commitments are good points...but again it's a non-flying job.....


I would just see it that way...It wasn't meant to be (the CFI job)...there is other ways to get your hours up like has been said earlier...WE, night..
Just don't give up and stay current ! Good luck !
 

mrivc211

Well-Known Member
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....this might (and i say might...) look unprofessional to a recruiter...Job stability and respect of commitments are good points

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Well that may be true, but you could also tell the interviewer it was either eat and sleep or be homeless. I think he'd understand!
 

ibcd

New Member
I really wanted to share this with you guys. 8 months since posting this topic, I've finally finished my contract and have been offered a position at the same school I rejected. Excited to start this new career and life and hoping for the best
 
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