Air Attack CA fires

mjg407 · March 3rd, 2009, 15:02

near Lake Shasta

mjg407 · March 3rd, 2009, 15:04

mjg407 · March 3rd, 2009, 15:05

Polar742 · March 3rd, 2009, 15:14

...Nice....

What's the deal with the small tprops leading the drop planes?

mjg407 · March 3rd, 2009, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Polar742

...Nice....

What's the deal with the small tprops leading the drop planes?

If the fire is a highly populated area, a lead plane is required for all drops. The thought being that a King Air is a hell of a lot more maneuverable than a P-3/C-130. However, all Air Force and the DC-10 require to have a lead on all drops because they are not Initial Attack qualified.

Douglas · March 3rd, 2009, 16:49

Cool videos

Matt13C · March 3rd, 2009, 17:12

Awesome videos.

You said in a previous thread you like a mix of ag flying and multi engine/crm. Do the lead planes work for you and are they a first step to flying the P-3 and doing drops? Looks like an awesome job!

mjg407 · March 3rd, 2009, 17:20

The lead planes are all USFS or BLM personnel. Many folks start off doing air attack (which is up high and directing), then move into the tankers or lead planes. The CALFIRE folks all have to start in the air attack role (OV-10s).

MikeD · March 3rd, 2009, 21:41

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Originally Posted by mjg407

The lead planes are all USFS or BLM personnel. Many folks start off doing air attack (which is up high and directing), then move into the tankers or lead planes. The CALFIRE folks all have to start in the air attack role (OV-10s).

Are CALFIRE's (I still call them CDF) S-2s still crewed by DynCorp?

I liked BLMs OV-10s when they still had them, with the green/white livery. CDF still running the O-2s also, or just Bronco's?

mjg407 · March 3rd, 2009, 21:53

Just the OV10s and still dyncorps

CN94559 · March 3rd, 2009, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Douglas

Cool videos

MikeD · March 3rd, 2009, 23:12

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Originally Posted by mjg407

Just the OV10s and still dyncorps

Cool. You guys used to have a good fleet of DC-4s, even a few in the current livery IIRC, they still around?

mjg407 · March 4th, 2009, 11:25

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Originally Posted by MikeD

Cool. You guys used to have a good fleet of DC-4s, even a few in the current livery IIRC, they still around?

When the shutdown happened we got rid of all the round engines. We sold the DC-4s to airspray in Canada, and the P-2s were sold, but they are still sitting here collecting dust. We are strictly P-3s right now with a fleet of 8 looking for one or two more.

MikeD · March 4th, 2009, 11:28

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Originally Posted by mjg407

When the shutdown happened we got rid of all the round engines. We sold the DC-4s to airspray in Canada, and the P-2s were sold, but they are still sitting here collecting dust. We are strictly P-3s right now with a fleet of 8 looking for one or two more.

One thing I was wondering is, why did your company operate all it's P-2s with the aux jets removed? As opposed to other P-2 operators?

mjg407 · March 4th, 2009, 12:25

You only gain about 250 gallons with the Jets, but burn well over twice the fuel. So no real benes.

t-cart · March 6th, 2009, 23:32

Thanks for posting these.

mjg407 · March 10th, 2009, 18:58

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Originally Posted by t-cart

Thanks for posting these.

my pleasure sir.

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Polar742 Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rockledge Posts: 3,638	Re: Air Attack CA fires ...Nice.... What's the deal with the small tprops leading the drop planes?

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Douglas Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Good Life. Posts: 3,089	Re: Air Attack CA fires Cool videos __________________ EYE/ Double EYE/ Multi EYE/ GOLDEN-EYE Legend-----> Full Time. Student pilot guide

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Matt13C Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,356	Re: Air Attack CA fires Awesome videos. You said in a previous thread you like a mix of ag flying and multi engine/crm. Do the lead planes work for you and are they a first step to flying the P-3 and doing drops? Looks like an awesome job!

March 3rd, 2009, 17:20	#8
mjg407 Old Skool Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal Posts: 4,205	Re: Air Attack CA fires The lead planes are all USFS or BLM personnel. Many folks start off doing air attack (which is up high and directing), then move into the tankers or lead planes. The CALFIRE folks all have to start in the air attack role (OV-10s). __________________ "A good Navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace."

March 3rd, 2009, 21:53	#10
mjg407 Old Skool Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal Posts: 4,205	Re: Air Attack CA fires Just the OV10s and still dyncorps

March 4th, 2009, 12:25	#15
mjg407 Old Skool Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal Posts: 4,205	Re: Air Attack CA fires You only gain about 250 gallons with the Jets, but burn well over twice the fuel. So no real benes. __________________ "A good Navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace."

March 6th, 2009, 23:32	#16
t-cart Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South 40 Posts: 2,289	Re: Air Attack CA fires Thanks for posting these.

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