USAirways... Holy cow - Page 2

OldTownPilot · March 26th, 2008, 11:27

What a freaking cluster over there.

surreal1221 · March 26th, 2008, 12:06

I'm pretty certain, that when all this is over and done with (no matter the outcome)

The easties will have a decision that they'll have to answer for when encountering another ALPA pilot.

MusketeerMan · March 26th, 2008, 12:22

What a mess right now. We had a east pilot in the cockpit the other day who was disgruntled and pissed, and I jumped on a west crews' plane to get home and sat in the cockpit. The west CA was fired up when they talked about it and said some things I wouldn't repeat in what they'd like to do to a east pilot. I sat there with huge eyes and kept quiet...

surreal1221 · March 26th, 2008, 12:27

Man oh man.

It won't be pretty, whatever it is.

Some real shady individuals running this whole uSAPa game.

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2008, 12:33

I've got a number of friends that are "Westies" and if you think "Red Book/Blue Book" was divisive, just you wait.

Firebird2XC · March 26th, 2008, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I've got a number of friends that are "Westies" and if you think "Red Book/Blue Book" was divisive, just you wait.

Red Book/Blue Book?

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2008, 14:17

The resulting morass of the integration of Northwest Orient and Republic.

Nick · March 26th, 2008, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebird2XC

Red Book/Blue Book?

Red book is hired as Northwest Orient
Green book is hired as Republic
Blue book is hired after it all at Northwest Airlines.

Green book pilots are restricted from bidding captain on a widebody airplane until red book pilots already have, in simple terms.

Firebird2XC · March 26th, 2008, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

The resulting morass of the integration of Northwest Orient and Republic.

Ahhhh.

777forever · March 26th, 2008, 14:34

Man, pilots are real protective of the widebodies. Seems like when there's a narrowbody seniority list merged with widebody seniority list the sky high fences go up. More proof that Dough is right, Innashunal is where its at in the career.

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2008, 14:35

Uh oh, I got in a LOOOOOOOOOOT of trouble for saying that several months ago!

Kristie · March 26th, 2008, 14:57

Minuteman · March 26th, 2008, 15:23

Man, right or wrong, a lot of the West guys act like dicks when discussing their future career.

If they really want to make a case on YouTube, show some East guys being un-negotiable jerks at an ALPA meeting.

(and, uh, "USAPA" already stands for "USA PATRIOT Act")

Seggy · March 26th, 2008, 15:40

The most 'interesting' jumpseat I have ever had so far was from MCO-PHL in an A321 a few weeks ago with two guys wearing the yellow USAPA Lanyard.

One, out of the many things they told me, was the reason there are ATC Delays is because the big oil companies are paying the FAA to 'clog' the system and increase the fuel consumption.

Nick · March 26th, 2008, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

the reason there are ATC Delays is because the big oil companies are paying the FAA to 'clog' the system and increase the fuel consumption.

!!!

Did they check the chemtrail dispenser pipe on the walkaround too?

Minuteman · March 26th, 2008, 16:09

The more I watch, the worse it gets.

Its been said before: DON'T AGREE TO BINDING ARBITRATION as a rule.

And get a lawyer who won't say stuff like, "Another name for 'Tyranny of the Majority' is Democracy." Jeez...

Seggy · March 26th, 2008, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

!!!

Did they check the chemtrail dispenser pipe on the walkaround too?

No the Captain was ripping the gate agents a new one about the boarding procedures. Didn't have time to get into that I guess.

Velocipede · March 26th, 2008, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by 777forever

It seems like pilots get real sensitive if someone messes with their seniority. Is it possible to merge two seniority lists together fairly without anyone getting screwed?

That's how you know a list merger was fair...EVERYONE'S pissed.

777forever · March 26th, 2008, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velocipede

That's how you know a list merger was fair...EVERYONE'S pissed.

Umm..that DOES make sense!

I don't think USAirways East/West and DL/NW will ever resolve this issue. Its way to personal. I have a feeling some guys would rather see the company burn to the ground before giving up seniority.

Maximillian_Jenius · March 26th, 2008, 20:49

1.) 10-15 pgs. minimum!

2.) When do the registrations from PHL, DCA & CLT, and maybe even PHX, and LAS start registering?

3.) Poor Dave!

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2008, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

One, out of the many things they told me, was the reason there are ATC Delays is because the big oil companies are paying the FAA to 'clog' the system and increase the fuel consumption.

surreal1221 · March 26th, 2008, 21:28

I'm digging the comments over on the ALPA main board.

The word scabs have been thrown around a few times.

Velo, would these guys fit the definition of your pseudo-scab? We need to find another term, a legal term, that can be used in these types of situations.

Firebird2XC · March 26th, 2008, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by surreal1221

I'm digging the comments over on the ALPA main board.

The word scabs have been thrown around a few times.

Velo, would these guys fit the definition of your pseudo-scab? We need to find another term, a legal term, that can be used in these types of situations.

How about 'childish whiners'?

surreal1221 · March 26th, 2008, 22:22

While, I like it. . .I don't think it's a legal term we can use professionally to make these guys/girls stick out like sore thumbs.

Gonzo · March 26th, 2008, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by surreal1221

I'm digging the comments over on the ALPA main board.

The word scabs have been thrown around a few times.

Velo, would these guys fit the definition of your pseudo-scab? We need to find another term, a legal term, that can be used in these types of situations.

A USAPA member.

March 26th, 2008, 11:27	#26
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,898 Blog Entries: 4	Re: USAirways... Holy cow What a freaking cluster over there. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

March 26th, 2008, 12:06	#27
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,985	Re: USAirways... Holy cow I'm pretty certain, that when all this is over and done with (no matter the outcome) The easties will have a decision that they'll have to answer for when encountering another ALPA pilot. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \|

March 26th, 2008, 12:22	#28
MusketeerMan Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 1,920	Re: USAirways... Holy cow What a mess right now. We had a east pilot in the cockpit the other day who was disgruntled and pissed, and I jumped on a west crews' plane to get home and sat in the cockpit. The west CA was fired up when they talked about it and said some things I wouldn't repeat in what they'd like to do to a east pilot. I sat there with huge eyes and kept quiet...

March 26th, 2008, 12:27	#29
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,985	Re: USAirways... Holy cow Man oh man. It won't be pretty, whatever it is. Some real shady individuals running this whole uSAPa game. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \|

March 26th, 2008, 12:33	#30
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,226 Blog Entries: 1	Re: USAirways... Holy cow I've got a number of friends that are "Westies" and if you think "Red Book/Blue Book" was divisive, just you wait. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

March 26th, 2008, 14:17	#32
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,226 Blog Entries: 1	Re: USAirways... Holy cow The resulting morass of the integration of Northwest Orient and Republic. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

March 26th, 2008, 14:34	#35
777forever Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 1,796	Re: USAirways... Holy cow Man, pilots are real protective of the widebodies. Seems like when there's a narrowbody seniority list merged with widebody seniority list the sky high fences go up. More proof that Dough is right, Innashunal is where its at in the career. __________________ Comm-ASEL, MEL, Inst. CFI, CFII, MEI TT: 700 Part 121 ATR72 FO B.S. Aviation Management-Business Minor Southeastern Oklahoma State University Cum Laude Graduate

March 26th, 2008, 14:35	#36
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,226 Blog Entries: 1	Re: USAirways... Holy cow Uh oh, I got in a LOOOOOOOOOOT of trouble for saying that several months ago! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

March 26th, 2008, 14:57	#37
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,965 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USAirways... Holy cow WOW! __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

March 26th, 2008, 15:23	#38
Minuteman Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,448 Blog Entries: 1	Re: USAirways... Holy cow Man, right or wrong, a lot of the West guys act like dicks when discussing their future career. If they really want to make a case on YouTube, show some East guys being un-negotiable jerks at an ALPA meeting. (and, uh, "USAPA" already stands for "USA PATRIOT Act")

March 26th, 2008, 15:40	#39
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,043	Re: USAirways... Holy cow The most 'interesting' jumpseat I have ever had so far was from MCO-PHL in an A321 a few weeks ago with two guys wearing the yellow USAPA Lanyard. One, out of the many things they told me, was the reason there are ATC Delays is because the big oil companies are paying the FAA to 'clog' the system and increase the fuel consumption. __________________ www.alpa.org

March 26th, 2008, 16:09	#41
Minuteman Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,448 Blog Entries: 1	Re: USAirways... Holy cow The more I watch, the worse it gets. Its been said before: DON'T AGREE TO BINDING ARBITRATION as a rule. And get a lawyer who won't say stuff like, "Another name for 'Tyranny of the Majority' is Democracy." Jeez...

March 26th, 2008, 20:49	#45
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 18,795	Re: USAirways... Holy cow 1.) 10-15 pgs. minimum! 2.) When do the registrations from PHL, DCA & CLT, and maybe even PHX, and LAS start registering? 3.) Poor Dave! __________________ Rear Admiral www.gayviator.com Maximillian Pegasus

March 26th, 2008, 21:28	#47
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,985	Re: USAirways... Holy cow I'm digging the comments over on the ALPA main board. The word scabs have been thrown around a few times. Velo, would these guys fit the definition of your pseudo-scab? We need to find another term, a legal term, that can be used in these types of situations. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \|

March 26th, 2008, 22:22	#49
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,985	Re: USAirways... Holy cow While, I like it. . .I don't think it's a legal term we can use professionally to make these guys/girls stick out like sore thumbs. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \|

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