You're behind a british airways 767...

sorrygottarunway · July 11th, 2009, 02:16

... who is about to go transatlantic for London, in a long line of about 40 aircraft for takeoff. Nearing the end of the runway you notice a large plastic bag flying across the taxiway. It inevitably gets sucked into one of the 767's engine and you watch as it gets chopped up and spit out the back, small flames as well. After the "incident" the engine appears to be running normally and the brits don't even seem to notice either, as they don't make any calls over the radio. Do you:

1. Notify over the ground frequency to the 767
2. Ignore it and marvel at the large engines.

Doug Taylor · July 11th, 2009, 02:18

Same thing happened to a USAir DC-9 right in from of me in the late 90's. I just reported it to ground and let the chips fall where they may.

He actually got out of line and went lord knows where.

BobDDuck · July 11th, 2009, 12:00

I'd at least let them know they took some FOD in their engine. Worst case scenario they snap at you but I'd sure as hell want somebody telling me if I sucked in a plastic bag.

minitour · July 11th, 2009, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

I'd at least let them know they took some FOD in their engine. Worst case scenario they snap at you but I'd sure as hell want somebody telling me if I sucked in a plastic bag.

Ditto. Though our engines have the sucking power of a Dyson Ball, so it's not really an issue. Point still stands.

-mini

dasleben · July 11th, 2009, 22:08

I think this is pretty straightforward. Tell 'em and let them do whatever they need to do. If you don't, and something happens, well, I wouldn't want to think about that.

CaptainChris87 · July 13th, 2009, 06:43

I'd take pictures of the flames and post them on Facebook or Jetcareers...

But I'd tell ground trying not to step over anybody over the radio just to let them know what happend. What would you do Sorrygottarunaway?

rd757 · July 13th, 2009, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Same thing happened to a USAir DC-9 right in from of me in the late 90's. I just reported it to ground and let the chips fall where they may.

He actually got out of line and went lord knows where.

Old skool.

RD

BrewMaster · July 13th, 2009, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

I'd sure as hell want somebody telling me if I sucked in a plastic bag.

blaise723 · July 13th, 2009, 17:26

I have to echo everyone else's choice on the matter. There is no danger in informing the crew of what happened...there potentially could be by not telling them. So, what's the harm in doing so?

I think if you witnessed something there is a duty to report it, even if it might be minor. You'd hate to hear that something happened to the flight and know you could have given them a warning.

sorrygottarunway · July 14th, 2009, 00:14

We reported it. Then they asked about the size of the bag, if it was a garbage bag. I actually think it came from the IKEA across the way... Speedbird continued uneventfully, responded in a very british "thank you kindly and we're viewing quite normal conditions up here <insert tea slurp>."

///AMG · July 14th, 2009, 02:15

Haha love the "stare at the big engines" option. That gets my vote

JA Yawd Bwoy · July 14th, 2009, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by sorrygottarunway

We reported it. Then they asked about the size of the bag, if it was a garbage bag. I actually think it came from the IKEA across the way... Speedbird continued uneventfully, responded in a very british "thank you kindly and we're viewing quite normal conditions up here <insert tea slurp>."

Did this happen at EWR?

WestIndian425 · July 23rd, 2009, 01:06

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Originally Posted by JA Yawd Bwoy

Did this happen at EWR?

That does sound a lot like EWR, doesn't it? LOL

Killtron2000 · July 31st, 2009, 02:49

If you were informed that "what appeared to be a plastic bag" got sucked into your engine what would you do?

ChasenSFO · July 31st, 2009, 07:10

Yesterday at SFO the wind was strong and right down the runway and a huge human-sized plastic bag was blowing steadily across the runway. I didn't know who to call and a VX A319 sucked it up within 20 seconds or so finishing up his landing roll. Didn't see any flames or anything but I hope it didn't cause any damage.

OhioStatePilot · August 1st, 2009, 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChasenSFO

Yesterday at SFO the wind was strong and right down the runway and a huge human-sized plastic bag was blowing steadily across the runway. I didn't know who to call and a VX A319 sucked it up within 20 seconds or so finishing up his landing roll. Didn't see any flames or anything but I hope it didn't cause any damage.

Call Airport Ops for something like that.

July 11th, 2009, 02:16	#1
sorrygottarunway Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DXR, Connecticut Posts: 1,301	You're behind a british airways 767... ... who is about to go transatlantic for London, in a long line of about 40 aircraft for takeoff. Nearing the end of the runway you notice a large plastic bag flying across the taxiway. It inevitably gets sucked into one of the 767's engine and you watch as it gets chopped up and spit out the back, small flames as well. After the "incident" the engine appears to be running normally and the brits don't even seem to notice either, as they don't make any calls over the radio. Do you: 1. Notify over the ground frequency to the 767 2. Ignore it and marvel at the large engines. __________________ Proud supporter of PAM ANN! Last edited by sorrygottarunway; July 11th, 2009 at 12:41.

July 11th, 2009, 02:18	#2
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 50,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... Same thing happened to a USAir DC-9 right in from of me in the late 90's. I just reported it to ground and let the chips fall where they may. He actually got out of line and went lord knows where. __________________ Doug Taylor PPL-SEL PA-38 Typed

July 11th, 2009, 12:00	#3
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 7,047	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... I'd at least let them know they took some FOD in their engine. Worst case scenario they snap at you but I'd sure as hell want somebody telling me if I sucked in a plastic bag. __________________ The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

July 11th, 2009, 22:08	#5
dasleben Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: BOS Posts: 183	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... I think this is pretty straightforward. Tell 'em and let them do whatever they need to do. If you don't, and something happens, well, I wouldn't want to think about that.

July 13th, 2009, 06:43	#6
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Location: O.C. Posts: 1,849	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... I'd take pictures of the flames and post them on Facebook or Jetcareers... But I'd tell ground trying not to step over anybody over the radio just to let them know what happend. What would you do Sorrygottarunaway? __________________ -ΣΦΕ -Is a student in the most awesome College building in the nation.

July 13th, 2009, 17:26	#9
blaise723 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 111	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... I have to echo everyone else's choice on the matter. There is no danger in informing the crew of what happened...there potentially could be by not telling them. So, what's the harm in doing so? I think if you witnessed something there is a duty to report it, even if it might be minor. You'd hate to hear that something happened to the flight and know you could have given them a warning. __________________ A wet bird never flies at night.

July 14th, 2009, 00:14	#10
sorrygottarunway Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DXR, Connecticut Posts: 1,301	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... We reported it. Then they asked about the size of the bag, if it was a garbage bag. I actually think it came from the IKEA across the way... Speedbird continued uneventfully, responded in a very british "thank you kindly and we're viewing quite normal conditions up here <insert tea slurp>." __________________ Proud supporter of PAM ANN!

July 14th, 2009, 02:15	#11
///AMG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NAS Meridian, MS Posts: 403	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... Haha love the "stare at the big engines" option. That gets my vote

July 31st, 2009, 02:49	#14
Killtron2000 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Prime Universe Posts: 2,300	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... If you were informed that "what appeared to be a plastic bag" got sucked into your engine what would you do? __________________ This is a signature, fear it.

July 31st, 2009, 07:10	#15
ChasenSFO Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SFO Posts: 1,330	Re: You're behind a british airways 767... Yesterday at SFO the wind was strong and right down the runway and a huge human-sized plastic bag was blowing steadily across the runway. I didn't know who to call and a VX A319 sucked it up within 20 seconds or so finishing up his landing roll. Didn't see any flames or anything but I hope it didn't cause any damage. __________________ The term "First Officer" was invented because Les Abend is never second.

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