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Old April 28th, 2008, 21:27   #101
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Default Re: Suspended!! (unfortunately, this is not hypothetical)

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He should have been replaced by a captain that was "more comfortable" with the situation. It's perfectly safe to fly into light freezing rain. I've done it many times.
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A decision is a decision, and it should be respected. Sure, light freezing rain is not a solid wall. However, it does not warrant a suspenion if you have a clean record. Now if you do this on a regular basis, something is wrong. I don't think that it was the case here. A visit to the CP's office should have been enough.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 14:12   #102
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He should have been replaced by a captain that was "more comfortable" with the situation. It's perfectly safe to fly into light freezing rain. I've done it many times.

Microsoft FlightSim doesn't count. We're talking about real airplanes here.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 17:30   #103
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He should have been replaced by a captain that was "more comfortable" with the situation. It's perfectly safe to fly into light freezing rain. I've done it many times.
Note the difference between these two definitions. I believe BB was confident in his decision to side with safety on that particular day, in light of recent confusion and clarifications in the DoJet manual. The bulletins likely had alot of Captains with their head in the manuals. I believe the company was arrogant in their opinion on the matter.

con·fi·dence [kon-fi-duhns]
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2. belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: He has much confidence in himself

Arrogance
Ar"ro*gance\, n. [F., fr. L. arrogantia, fr. arrogans. See Arrogant.] The act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption.
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