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August 7th, 2004, 14:38
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001
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 |  Pass out... what would you do? Before the flight, the Capt. bought a meal from a third rate restaurant, and is now consuming it inflight (say, FL350 over Iowa). You're the F/O. He initially complains of slight dizziness. Suddenly, he passes out. Full unconscious, falling over the control yoke. Since you didn't eat from the same restaurant, you're fine. What would you do? Starting from him being slouched over the control yoke... ? |
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August 7th, 2004, 19:08
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? Eat the rest of his food, never let food go to waste! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Smilecrunch.gif[/img] |
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August 7th, 2004, 21:34
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW
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 | Re: Pass out... what would you do? Get him off the controls Get the FA in the Cockpit to help if needed Declare the medical emergency Get the plane on the ground [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] |
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August 7th, 2004, 22:07
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA
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 | Re: Pass out... what would you do? Find someone who DIDN'T have the fish for dinner.... "Well we had 2 dinners, it was a choice of fish or chicken." "Ah yes, I remember. I had the lasagna." |
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August 8th, 2004, 12:48
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2003 Location: Home Sweet Home!
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? Assuming the autopilot is still on I would call for the FA to come up front and remove his dead arse from my seat,if the FA said that the Capt. wasn't dead, I would in the fashion of Monty Python say ... he will be soon, and then I would occupy my newly self appointed position of authority. I then would make an announcement in my deapest jet pilot voice ... "Ladies and Gentle men this is THE Captain ... I would querry the FA's as if there were any dead heading pilots aboard, preferably a company pilot ...side note: how do you know if you are sitting next to a pilot ... answer: They will tell you. I would invite the identified pilot to occupy the squawk and talk position and advise him / her that all radio transmissions would be accorded the "let me check with THE Captain" response. I would then choose an emergency landing site with the highest possibility of National news network coverage and proceed for landing. Jim |
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August 8th, 2004, 13:33
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO (anywhere but Fresno)
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? Jim, that is probably the most intelligent, coherent and well thought out response to any question I've ever seen posted on JC. I commend you on your superiour decision making abilities, sir, and would welcome the opportunity to pass out under your command. |
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August 8th, 2004, 13:48
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| Moderator  Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? I doubt I would notice until we are getting ready for decent, ot he starts to smell. Gear up Flaps up Legs Up Newspaper Up But if I did I would follow Capt. Jim - |
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August 10th, 2004, 21:55
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] Get him off the controls Get the FA in the Cockpit to help if needed Declare the medical emergency Get the plane on the ground [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I second that. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img] |
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August 10th, 2004, 23:49
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Louisville KY USA
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? An interesting twist to this would be, what would happen if THE Captain passed out at minimums while he was the PF and ended up slouched on the yoke? |
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August 11th, 2004, 10:02
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| Moderator  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] An interesting twist to this would be, what would happen if THE Captain passed out at minimums while he was the PF and ended up slouched on the yoke? [/ QUOTE ] The tension reels on the shoulder harness probably wouldn't let that happen. |
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August 11th, 2004, 13:26
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| Moderator  Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] I don't know any FO that wouldn't hesistate to assume control if the captain started veering from a normal flight path. [/ QUOTE ] Don't know one that "wouldn't" or "would" hesitate? The way it's worded reads that all of the FO's you know "would" hesitate in that situation. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img] |
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August 11th, 2004, 17:26
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| Agent Smith  | Re: Pass out... what would you do? Grammar police got me! Lemme put this in straight ghetto. Ain't no FO I be knowin' ain't goin' let no jive turkey captain who be slumped over the yoke kill his ass. |
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August 11th, 2004, 23:07
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? Are there any weight restrictions on a pilot when working for an airline? Imagine having to mover a heavy pilot. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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August 12th, 2004, 00:23
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| Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] Lemme put this in straight ghetto. Ain't no FO I be knowin' ain't goin' let no jive turkey captain who be slumped over the yoke kill his ass. [/ QUOTE ] Word Bra - I would put my thing down flip it and reversed it. |
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August 12th, 2004, 10:51
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] Assuming the autopilot is still on I would call for the FA to come up front and remove his dead arse from my seat,if the FA said that the Capt. wasn't dead, I would in the fashion of Monty Python say ... he will be soon, and then I would occupy my newly self appointed position of authority. I then would make an announcement in my deapest jet pilot voice ... "Ladies and Gentle men this is THE Captain ... I would querry the FA's as if there were any dead heading pilots aboard, preferably a company pilot ...side note: how do you know if you are sitting next to a pilot ... answer: They will tell you. I would invite the identified pilot to occupy the squawk and talk position and advise him / her that all radio transmissions would be accorded the "let me check with THE Captain" response. I would then choose an emergency landing site with the highest possibility of National news network coverage and proceed for landing. Jim [/ QUOTE ] Perfect response! |
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August 15th, 2004, 15:41
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Prescott, AZ
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] Grammar police got me! Lemme put this in straight ghetto. Ain't no FO I be knowin' ain't goin' let no jive turkey captain who be slumped over the yoke kill his ass. [/ QUOTE ] Oh stewardess, I speak jive. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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August 22nd, 2004, 02:18
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Grammar police got me! Lemme put this in straight ghetto. Ain't no FO I be knowin' ain't goin' let no jive turkey captain who be slumped over the yoke kill his ass. [/ QUOTE ] Oh stewardess, I speak jive. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Mofo butta leg - cut down to da bone, tack me! |
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August 26th, 2004, 15:58
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? My momma dun not raise no fool I dug her rap! Cut me some slack jack...chum don't want no help chum don't get no help! Jives ain't got no brains anyhow |
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September 12th, 2004, 20:53
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| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA
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 | Re: Pass out... what would you do? I would move him out of my chair :-) |
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September 26th, 2004, 02:39
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| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2004
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? I would first try to wake him to see if hes alright, check pulse, declare an emergency, then land the plane myself, without telling the WHOLE truth to my passangers. |
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September 30th, 2004, 12:43
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| Big Chief's Woman  | Re: Pass out... what would you do? without telling the whole truth to the pax? why? what if you need 2 people to land the plane? who else would do the same? and your reasoning? |
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September 30th, 2004, 17:15
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] without telling the whole truth to the pax? why? [/ QUOTE ] This is where you discreetly ask the FAs to help ya out. If you tell the pax the captain passed out, people will start screaming "Oh my god, we're gonna crash!" If you tell pax that a warning light burned out on the panel, I guarantee ya that some of them will scream the same thing. [ QUOTE ] what if you need 2 people to land the plane? [/ QUOTE ] Any jumpseaters on board? Company people first, then start looking for off line pilots. Go down the priority list from there. I seriously doubt that they'd make it all the way down to my private pilot w/ instrument butt sitting in row 18 seat C. |
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September 30th, 2004, 18:06
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| Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? The CA needs medical attention! If the cockpit is large enough to accomodate it, this can be given up front. However it is advisable (and procedure) to relocate them to a more accessable area in the cabin. Preferable a galley or such where he's not blocking an exit (if possible). I think most F/Os are perfectly capable of landing the a/c on their own. This is not SOP, but these are not Standard Operating Conditions either! Of course take advantage of any jumpseaters or commuting pilots, but it would take more time to orient a non-airline pilot to what's going on than it would be for the F/O to just land the plane by himself. As for what to tell the pax, they're going to see the CA being removed from the cockpit, and they're going to wonder why you've stopped right away on the runway while paramedics drive up in an ambulance to remove the CA! You tell the pax what is going on, and explain that although one pilot is indeed, sick and unable to perform his duties, that's why we have two person crews, and everything will be just fine! We'll be landing at the nearest suitable airport. Just like any gravely sick person onboard, we want the CA to get the medical attention he needs ASAP! I believe I responded to this post earlier, and honestly haven't re-read the original post to refresh myself to the details. But please let's remember this CA is in need of medical attention! I wouldn't let him just sit there in his seat until all pax are ignorantly off the airplane at the scheduled destination just because you didn't want to tell the pax what was going on! |
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September 30th, 2004, 18:57
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN
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| Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] I believe I responded to this post earlier, and honestly haven't re-read the original post to refresh myself to the details. But please let's remember this CA is in need of medical attention! I wouldn't let him just sit there in his seat until all pax are ignorantly off the airplane at the scheduled destination just because you didn't want to tell the pax what was going on! [/ QUOTE ] On the other hand, he doesn have more seniority than me. I'd me moving up the ladder. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Good point, though on the medical attention. |
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