Pass out... what would you do? - Page 2

MikeD · September 30th, 2004, 20:34

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without telling the whole truth to the pax? why?

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They can't handle the truth!!!!!!!!

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This is where you discreetly ask the FAs to help ya out.

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I don't know about that.........I mean, if it's anyone other than Amber.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

FlyChicaga · October 1st, 2004, 20:25

Grab the cash from his wallet first. We all now the Captains are loaded.

coldsolderjoint · November 25th, 2004, 02:46

if a student pilot ended up as PIC of an airliner, would they be leagally able to log PIC mutiengine turbine time? even though they dont have a pilots license nor a type rating and that they would be talking to people on the ground for directions on how to land the plane?

PaulThomas · November 25th, 2004, 18:42

The only time a student pilot can log PIC is when he's solo or when he's taking his checkride (your first pass is the DE) by the FAR.

The only way he could become PIC by the FAR is if's with a DE or everyone jumped out of the plane

(for both of these he needs an endorsement from a CFI)

Now if both pilots were to become incapacited, he may have to act as PIC, but could he log it? Not by the FAR, but then again I don't think anyone would say anything if he brings the plane back down safely.

kellwolf · November 25th, 2004, 19:00

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Now if both pilots were to become incapacited, he may have to act as PIC, but could he log it? Not by the FAR, but then again I don't think anyone would say anything if he brings the plane back down safely.

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I don't know. Leave it to the FAA to violate him for flying the plane with pax while still a student pilot.....

mtsu_av8er · November 26th, 2004, 02:40

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Now if both pilots were to become incapacited, he may have to act as PIC, but could he log it? Not by the FAR, but then again I don't think anyone would say anything if he brings the plane back down safely.

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I don't know. Leave it to the FAA to violate him for flying the plane with pax while still a student pilot.....

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Yeah, but it would be cool at an interview!!

"Have you ever been violated?"

"Well, there was this time..."

FL270 · November 29th, 2004, 12:13

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"Well, there was this time..."

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Or if you prefer ...

"So there I was, ten thousand feet and inverted ... "

supercell86 · November 10th, 2005, 01:04

two questions.....one for f/a's, what if both pilots passed out, what would you do?? and what if your a single pilot.....should what you eat be considered on the checklist?? this always concerns me when i fly solo, thats why i always like to take a safety pilot with me, incase for some reason i decide to pass out, even though im legally checked out by the FAA medical examiners.

Doug Taylor · November 10th, 2005, 01:10

Oh man, that's a "necropost"!

Kingairer · November 10th, 2005, 15:33

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Originally Posted by supercell86

two questions.....one for f/a's, what if both pilots passed out, what would you do?? and what if your a single pilot.....should what you eat be considered on the checklist?? this always concerns me when i fly solo, thats why i always like to take a safety pilot with me, incase for some reason i decide to pass out, even though im legally checked out by the FAA medical examiners.

Get the FA to inflate the Autopilot.

IndianaPilot · January 1st, 2006, 17:48

How about an ill passenger ? Do airline crews have certain criteria for determining whether or not an emergency landing is warranted ? For example, obviously chest pain, cardiac arrest, or difficulty breathing would be true emergencies, but what about other medical complaints that are borderline, say for example a diabetic not feeling well, or asthma attack, or extreme nausea and vomiting ?

jtrain609 · January 1st, 2006, 17:52

"Asthma attack" is a real, real, real broad statement. If you've stopped breathing, you need to get some epipen (sp) in RIGHT NOW. That would also mean you've gotta get on the ground RIGHT NOW.

IndianaPilot · January 1st, 2006, 18:02

LOL yes John I know i'm a paramedic !! I mean your general, everyday, asthmatic that is wheezing, but still breathing !!

jtrain609 · January 1st, 2006, 18:36

Eh, not an attack. Being tight and having to take a few hits off an alberatol (sp again) inhaler doesn't mean much. Most people probably wouldn't know the different, though.

<--- Career asthmatic, diagnosed at 14 months with CF...three times, then they finally figured out it was asthma. Been around this game for a while

TonyC · January 1st, 2006, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Cruiser

He initially complains of slight dizziness. Suddenly, he passes out. Full unconscious, falling over the control yoke. Since you didn't eat from the same restaurant, you're fine. What would you do? Starting from him being slouched over the control yoke...

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In the 727, it might be more dangerous to try to drag an unconcious pilot out of the seat. I'd simply lock the shoulder harness, pull him off the yoke (get somebody to help if necessary) and recline the seat. That way he's not in the way of anything, and we can get to the business of putting the airplane on the ground. The important factor here is not closest airport, or even closest airport "in time," but the closest airport with appropriate medical response capability.

Quite a few airplanes can't be taxied from the right seat (beyond gradual turns), so I'd consider stopping straight ahead. Other than that, much can be said about flying from the seat you're already comfortable in. Just condsider it your leg, but nobody's gonna take it on the rollout.

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bob loblaw · January 2nd, 2006, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Grammar police got me!

Lemme put this in straight ghetto. Ain't no FO I be knowin' ain't goin' let no jive turkey captain who be slumped over the yoke kill his ass.

Cut me some slack jack. I dug your rap. My momma didn't raise no fool.

mtsu_av8er · January 2nd, 2006, 21:26

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Originally Posted by bob loblaw

Cut me some slack jack. I dug your rap. My momma didn't raise no fool.

Chump don't want the help, chump don't get the help"

Nick · January 3rd, 2006, 11:40

Jive ass dudes ain't got no brains anyhow.

Chris_Ford · January 3rd, 2006, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Nick

Jive ass dudes ain't got no brains anyhow.

I've always wanted to say this.....

For shizzle.

Maximillian_Jenius · January 3rd, 2006, 15:36

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

I've always wanted to say this.....

For shizzle.

Ummmm it's fo shizzle...white boy!

-Matthew

Maximillian_Jenius · January 3rd, 2006, 15:37

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Originally Posted by MQAAord

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An interesting twist to this would be, what would happen if THE Captain passed out at minimums while he was the PF and ended up slouched on the yoke?

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The tension reels on the shoulder harness probably wouldn't let that happen.

If the plane is on autopilot the captain falling unconscious on the yoke wouldn't that turn the AP off, causing the plane to go into a dive?

-Matthew

Chris_Ford · January 3rd, 2006, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Ummmm it's fo shizzle...white boy!

-Matthew

And Matthew does not watch Chapelle's show.

(the racial draft... Tiger Woods... anyone?)

Maximillian_Jenius · January 3rd, 2006, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

And Matthew does not watch Chapelle's show.

(the racial draft... Tiger Woods... anyone?)

Actually I saw that episode. Bout the funniest episodes I have seen are the ones with him playing Rick James and Charlie Murphy.

Cocaine is a helluva drug!

-Matthew

jtrain609 · January 3rd, 2006, 19:52

"Hold by drink $((*$, I'm Rick James"

I think a lot of people here have gotten that on their cell phone from me

bob loblaw · January 3rd, 2006, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

I've always wanted to say this.....

For shizzle.

Ahhh, the race draft.

September 30th, 2004, 20:34	#26
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] without telling the whole truth to the pax? why? [/ QUOTE ] They can't handle the truth!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] This is where you discreetly ask the FAs to help ya out. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know about that.........I mean, if it's anyone other than Amber.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

October 1st, 2004, 20:25	#27
FlyChicaga Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,747	Re: Pass out... what would you do? Grab the cash from his wallet first. We all now the Captains are loaded.

November 25th, 2004, 02:46	#28
coldsolderjoint Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 33	Re: Pass out... what would you do? if a student pilot ended up as PIC of an airliner, would they be leagally able to log PIC mutiengine turbine time? even though they dont have a pilots license nor a type rating and that they would be talking to people on the ground for directions on how to land the plane?

November 25th, 2004, 18:42	#29
PaulThomas Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Naples, FL KAPF Posts: 46	Re: Pass out... what would you do? The only time a student pilot can log PIC is when he's solo or when he's taking his checkride (your first pass is the DE) by the FAR. The only way he could become PIC by the FAR is if's with a DE or everyone jumped out of the plane (for both of these he needs an endorsement from a CFI) Now if both pilots were to become incapacited, he may have to act as PIC, but could he log it? Not by the FAR, but then again I don't think anyone would say anything if he brings the plane back down safely.

November 25th, 2004, 19:00	#30
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,208	Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] Now if both pilots were to become incapacited, he may have to act as PIC, but could he log it? Not by the FAR, but then again I don't think anyone would say anything if he brings the plane back down safely. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. Leave it to the FAA to violate him for flying the plane with pax while still a student pilot.....

November 26th, 2004, 02:40	#31
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,403	Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Now if both pilots were to become incapacited, he may have to act as PIC, but could he log it? Not by the FAR, but then again I don't think anyone would say anything if he brings the plane back down safely. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. Leave it to the FAA to violate him for flying the plane with pax while still a student pilot..... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but it would be cool at an interview!! "Have you ever been violated?" "Well, there was this time..."

November 29th, 2004, 12:13	#32
FL270 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,101	Re: Pass out... what would you do? [ QUOTE ] "Well, there was this time..." [/ QUOTE ]"This one time, at band camp ... " Or if you prefer ... "So there I was, ten thousand feet and inverted ... "

November 10th, 2005, 01:04	#33
supercell86 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 146	two questions.....one for f/a's, what if both pilots passed out, what would you do?? and what if your a single pilot.....should what you eat be considered on the checklist?? this always concerns me when i fly solo, thats why i always like to take a safety pilot with me, incase for some reason i decide to pass out, even though im legally checked out by the FAA medical examiners.

November 10th, 2005, 01:10	#34
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,749 Blog Entries: 1	Oh man, that's a "necropost"! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 1st, 2006, 17:48	#36
IndianaPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 423	How about an ill passenger ? Do airline crews have certain criteria for determining whether or not an emergency landing is warranted ? For example, obviously chest pain, cardiac arrest, or difficulty breathing would be true emergencies, but what about other medical complaints that are borderline, say for example a diabetic not feeling well, or asthma attack, or extreme nausea and vomiting ?

January 1st, 2006, 17:52	#37
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,093	"Asthma attack" is a real, real, real broad statement. If you've stopped breathing, you need to get some epipen (sp) in RIGHT NOW. That would also mean you've gotta get on the ground RIGHT NOW. __________________ "I could stand at the end of the line of the general mills cereal plant to make sure that all the lucky charms are up to par for 38k a year." -snickersnwa

January 1st, 2006, 18:02	#38
IndianaPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 423	LOL yes John I know i'm a paramedic !! I mean your general, everyday, asthmatic that is wheezing, but still breathing !!

January 1st, 2006, 18:36	#39
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,093	Eh, not an attack. Being tight and having to take a few hits off an alberatol (sp again) inhaler doesn't mean much. Most people probably wouldn't know the different, though. <--- Career asthmatic, diagnosed at 14 months with CF...three times, then they finally figured out it was asthma. Been around this game for a while __________________ "I could stand at the end of the line of the general mills cereal plant to make sure that all the lucky charms are up to par for 38k a year." -snickersnwa

January 3rd, 2006, 11:40	#43
Nick Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,182	Jive ass dudes ain't got no brains anyhow. __________________ Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.

January 3rd, 2006, 19:52	#49
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,093	"Hold by drink $((*$, I'm Rick James" I think a lot of people here have gotten that on their cell phone from me __________________ "I could stand at the end of the line of the general mills cereal plant to make sure that all the lucky charms are up to par for 38k a year." -snickersnwa

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