NYC people at or considering UND

bronxpilot · January 15th, 2008, 10:54

Hey folks I was just wondering if there is anyone from the nyc or new york state area at or consdering UND. I visited UND last year, was going to go, but then decided Grand Forks was too in the middle of nowhere for me. I decided to go to SUNY Farmingdale for aviation and that was a HUGE mistake. I'm now goin to school near wher I live in Manhattan and doing my private at KISP on Long Island. I was thinking about going to UND in Fall 08 or summer with my private (I'm on track for an April checkride), among other options including FBO flying and college or maybe ATP. If any New Yorkers have any UND related stuff or experience, or want to talk about Tri-State area Long Island, Connecticut, upstate New York, or New Jersey flying please share so I can help make a decision here.
Thanks alot!

av8or91 · January 15th, 2008, 12:15

Graduated Highschool in the POughkeepsie area and am in my 4th semester here doing commercial aviation.

TXaviator · January 15th, 2008, 12:44

angelfuree is from bronx i believe and he would loooove to tell you about it here.

he is currently instructing and should be chiming in on the forum shortly...

TheShocker · January 15th, 2008, 12:45

Hey, I have lived near the Parkchester area of the Bronx for 6 years before I moved to Queens. Great to see someone else from the Bronx on here. I too was looking at SUNY Farmingdale as an option but decided against it. I came to UND because I was more interested in the academics, the great facilities, and getting away from home. What I didn't pay too much attention to, was where I was getting away to. The first year here is always the worst because we are in an environment that is so remote. Public transportation is non-existent here, if you don't have a license, get one soon. Entertainment options are very limited also. You will meet many great people through the aviation program. There is less diversity outside of the department however, not just in race, but experiences, world knowledge, and culture. If you do make it out here, you definitely will appreciate a lot of the things you took for granted.

Curious question, what are the rates out of ISP for airplane rental? I need to take the family and friends up sometimes.

TheShocker · January 15th, 2008, 12:46

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

angelfuree is from bronx i believe and he would loooove to tell you about it here.

he is currently instructing and should be chiming in on the forum shortly...

angelfuree is Brooklyn

TXaviator · January 15th, 2008, 12:51

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Originally Posted by TheShocker

angelfuree is Brooklyn

haha, i dont know my NYC geography very well.

JaceTheAce · January 15th, 2008, 14:05

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Originally Posted by TheShocker

angelfuree is Brooklyn

And I'm currently in Queens, NY ...damn there's some good Columbian restaurants 2 blocks south of me!...on Northern Blvd, and then further south on Roosevelt.

UND has a good flight training program - the flight training IS increasing in cost at a higher rate than when I started. Something to keep in mind. Also note how horrible of a place Grand Forks is to live, but if you make some really good friends it will help you get through the 4 years.

bronxpilot · January 15th, 2008, 18:46

Arite guys thanks for all of the info about life in the great state of North Dakota and flight training at UND. It's great to see I wouldn't be the only New Yorker out there. Maybe going out there is what it takes to get a real good aviation program and education.

As for you, TheShocker
GOOD, no GREAT call not going to Farmingdale. It is a freakin zoo over there. I recently found out they lost all their instructors, had no contingency plan, and so no one was able to do flight training over the long SUNY/CUNY break, and flight training for Spring 2008 semester is up in the air. It's a shame they can't make it work over there becuase they have 14 new Piper Warriors in their fleet, but it's just run by stupid people, and the one seminole they have no one is allowed or abl to fly. Good call on the driver's license, I do have one, and I don't think I'd consider going anywhere (much less Grand Forks, ND) without one. To answer your question, the rental rates for KISP vary. At the place where I currently fly it is 120 per hour for an Alarus CH 2000. It varies, but that is the lowest I've seen it. Keep in mind however, that you should look around for those rates because they have about a million FBO's in Long Island airports like Islip, Farmingdale Republic, Brookhaven, etc., and I've heard there are some cheap rental rates in Bridgeport and Groton, CT.

juxtapilot · January 15th, 2008, 18:54

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Originally Posted by bronxpilot

As for you, TheShocker
GOOD, no GREAT call not going to Farmingdale. It is a freakin zoo over there. I recently found out they lost all their instructors, had no contingency plan, and so no one was able to do flight training over the long SUNY/CUNY break, and flight training for Spring 2008 semester is up in the air. It's a shame they can't make it work over there becuase they have 14 new Piper Warriors in their fleet, but it's just run by stupid people, and the one seminole they have no one is allowed or abl to fly.

You will find this probably wherever you go... especially in ND!

Just kidding, well not completely kidding, but New Yorkers seem to do fine at UND.

juxtapilot · January 15th, 2008, 19:01

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

And I'm currently in Queens, NY ...damn there's some good Columbian restaurants 2 blocks south of me!...on Northern Blvd, and then further south on Roosevelt.

UND has a good flight training program - the flight training IS increasing in cost at a higher rate than when I started. Something to keep in mind. Also note how horrible of a place Grand Forks is to live, but if you make some really good friends it will help you get through the 4 years.

It's on the rise but still isn't terrible (Compared to many places, not all).

Yesterday I payed 106.35/hr including the fuel surcharge of 7.35/hr for a Glass warrior...

bronxpilot · January 15th, 2008, 19:37

Anything under 120 or 130 an hour seems like winning the lottery to me that seems to be the goin rate around here but you gotta figure flight training, along with everything else is probably cheaper anywhere outside of new york. What we usually do here is fly to conecticut to top off becuase the gas is 2 bucks cheaper.

TheShocker · January 15th, 2008, 20:09

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Originally Posted by bronxpilot

Anything under 120 or 130 an hour seems like winning the lottery to me that seems to be the goin rate around here but you gotta figure flight training, along with everything else is probably cheaper anywhere outside of new york. What we usually do here is fly to conecticut to top off becuase the gas is 2 bucks cheaper.

Yeah, everything is at a premium if you are anywhere near the city. I probably might end up upstate for a cheaper rental. But I will look around FRG and ISP and see what they have to offer.

TDoc · January 15th, 2008, 22:14

haha, i love this thread. as a und grad from iowa i laughed my ass off at my friend from long island when he'd bring out the parka when the leaves started changing colors in gf, he has since moved back to the balmy climate out east.

bronxpilot · January 16th, 2008, 00:54

yeah i went to visit UND last winter and i brought like a north face and a hody with me and i was like yeah ill be fine ill be arite i got outta the plane it was like negative 10 i almost ran clear back to ny lol

Micaoct · January 16th, 2008, 01:07

Oh -10 isn't that bad. It's kind of funny a year ago when temperatures dropped to like 5 in Oregon I was complaining about the cold. Now it gets to 0 and I'm like hurray!!

Oh wait, you mean Fahrenheit not Celsius?

category · January 16th, 2008, 19:44

I applied to Farmingdale last year and to UND. Do you think Farmingdale will be any better this year (fall)

bronxpilot · January 16th, 2008, 19:51

Nah, Farmingdale sucks and always will as far as I saw when I was there. Don't make the same mistake I did, go to UND, don't look back, and maybe I'll see you there. By the way category, are you from manhattan? What high school?

category · January 16th, 2008, 20:07

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Originally Posted by bronxpilot

Nah, Farmingdale sucks and always will as far as I saw when I was there. Don't make the same mistake I did, go to UND, don't look back, and maybe I'll see you there. By the way category, are you from manhattan? What high school?

I tell people I am from Manhattan, since everybody knows Manhattan, besides its right across the bridge but for real I live in Fort Lee and go to their public high school.

bronxpilot · January 16th, 2008, 21:52

arite i can see why someone would lie about being from jersey (sorry had to get it in there) but at lest you're close to the bride and the city and stuff like that. We should keep in touch about UND anyhow. Did you start flight training in jersey yet?

category · January 16th, 2008, 22:27

hey most of my time I spend in the city. If I say I am from jersey people will be like w/e since I live in a small town that nobody knows unlike Manhattan. I think ill just start flight training in UND. How about you?

bronxpilot · January 17th, 2008, 10:51

yeh what i should've done is just gone to und fall 07 and started flight training there, cuz i got accepted. What I did do is went to suny farmingdale for one semester. Now I'm back i the city goin to cuny and still workin on my private in long island ( probly do checkride in april). I guess next year ill ether go to another suny and go the fbo route or go into und in the summer wth my private, do all there catch up #### and start IFR flying fall 08 at und. I've also heard a lot of good things about Purdue aviation program, might be something else for you to look into besides UND, I'm doing that too. What you might consider doing is going out to long island to do an intro fliht just to see if u like flying, before putting down money for university flight school. I can give you info on the school I go to in Islip that does intro flights in the alarus for 99 bucks, but it might be a good idea to find a place that does them in the piper warrior as thats's what you'll be training in to start at UND. Taking five or 6 flying lessons for familiarity with basic turns and maneuvers, taxiing, takeoffs and landings , runways, airspace, and stuff like that I think will really benefit anyone before enrolling in a program( I know it would've done me worlds of good). You might also consider buying the Jeppesen Private Pilot manual and getting started on that garbage too.

category · January 17th, 2008, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronxpilot

yeh what i should've done is just gone to und fall 07 and started flight training there, cuz i got accepted. What I did do is went to suny farmingdale for one semester. Now I'm back i the city goin to cuny and still workin on my private in long island ( probly do checkride in april). I guess next year ill ether go to another suny and go the fbo route or go into und in the summer wth my private, do all there catch up #### and start IFR flying fall 08 at und. I've also heard a lot of good things about Purdue aviation program, might be something else for you to look into besides UND, I'm doing that too. What you might consider doing is going out to long island to do an intro fliht just to see if u like flying, before putting down money for university flight school. I can give you info on the school I go to in Islip that does intro flights in the alarus for 99 bucks, but it might be a good idea to find a place that does them in the piper warrior as thats's what you'll be training in to start at UND. Taking five or 6 flying lessons for familiarity with basic turns and maneuvers, taxiing, takeoffs and landings , runways, airspace, and stuff like that I think will really benefit anyone before enrolling in a program( I know it would've done me worlds of good). You might also consider buying the Jeppesen Private Pilot manual and getting started on that garbage too.

I see why did you transfer from Farmingdale? It will be good if you can pm me the information for intro to flight.

January 15th, 2008, 10:54	#1
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	NYC people at or considering UND Hey folks I was just wondering if there is anyone from the nyc or new york state area at or consdering UND. I visited UND last year, was going to go, but then decided Grand Forks was too in the middle of nowhere for me. I decided to go to SUNY Farmingdale for aviation and that was a HUGE mistake. I'm now goin to school near wher I live in Manhattan and doing my private at KISP on Long Island. I was thinking about going to UND in Fall 08 or summer with my private (I'm on track for an April checkride), among other options including FBO flying and college or maybe ATP. If any New Yorkers have any UND related stuff or experience, or want to talk about Tri-State area Long Island, Connecticut, upstate New York, or New Jersey flying please share so I can help make a decision here. Thanks alot!

January 15th, 2008, 12:15	#2
av8or91 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: IRB Posts: 250	Re: NYC people at or considering UND Graduated Highschool in the POughkeepsie area and am in my 4th semester here doing commercial aviation. __________________ :n ana2:

January 15th, 2008, 12:44	#3
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX / Grand Forks, ND Posts: 2,101	Re: NYC people at or considering UND angelfuree is from bronx i believe and he would loooove to tell you about it here. he is currently instructing and should be chiming in on the forum shortly... __________________ CPL AMEL-I 187 TT / 25 ME ...and a pulse.

January 15th, 2008, 12:45	#4
TheShocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Queens/Grand Forks Posts: 338	Re: NYC people at or considering UND Hey, I have lived near the Parkchester area of the Bronx for 6 years before I moved to Queens. Great to see someone else from the Bronx on here. I too was looking at SUNY Farmingdale as an option but decided against it. I came to UND because I was more interested in the academics, the great facilities, and getting away from home. What I didn't pay too much attention to, was where I was getting away to. The first year here is always the worst because we are in an environment that is so remote. Public transportation is non-existent here, if you don't have a license, get one soon. Entertainment options are very limited also. You will meet many great people through the aviation program. There is less diversity outside of the department however, not just in race, but experiences, world knowledge, and culture. If you do make it out here, you definitely will appreciate a lot of the things you took for granted. Curious question, what are the rates out of ISP for airplane rental? I need to take the family and friends up sometimes.

January 15th, 2008, 18:46	#8
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	Re: NYC people at or considering UND Arite guys thanks for all of the info about life in the great state of North Dakota and flight training at UND. It's great to see I wouldn't be the only New Yorker out there. Maybe going out there is what it takes to get a real good aviation program and education. As for you, TheShocker GOOD, no GREAT call not going to Farmingdale. It is a freakin zoo over there. I recently found out they lost all their instructors, had no contingency plan, and so no one was able to do flight training over the long SUNY/CUNY break, and flight training for Spring 2008 semester is up in the air. It's a shame they can't make it work over there becuase they have 14 new Piper Warriors in their fleet, but it's just run by stupid people, and the one seminole they have no one is allowed or abl to fly. Good call on the driver's license, I do have one, and I don't think I'd consider going anywhere (much less Grand Forks, ND) without one. To answer your question, the rental rates for KISP vary. At the place where I currently fly it is 120 per hour for an Alarus CH 2000. It varies, but that is the lowest I've seen it. Keep in mind however, that you should look around for those rates because they have about a million FBO's in Long Island airports like Islip, Farmingdale Republic, Brookhaven, etc., and I've heard there are some cheap rental rates in Bridgeport and Groton, CT.

January 15th, 2008, 19:37	#11
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	Re: NYC people at or considering UND Anything under 120 or 130 an hour seems like winning the lottery to me that seems to be the goin rate around here but you gotta figure flight training, along with everything else is probably cheaper anywhere outside of new york. What we usually do here is fly to conecticut to top off becuase the gas is 2 bucks cheaper.

January 15th, 2008, 22:14	#13
TDoc Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 36	Re: NYC people at or considering UND haha, i love this thread. as a und grad from iowa i laughed my ass off at my friend from long island when he'd bring out the parka when the leaves started changing colors in gf, he has since moved back to the balmy climate out east. __________________ To most the sky is the limit, to those who love avaition, the sky is home.

January 16th, 2008, 00:54	#14
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	Re: NYC people at or considering UND yeah i went to visit UND last winter and i brought like a north face and a hody with me and i was like yeah ill be fine ill be arite i got outta the plane it was like negative 10 i almost ran clear back to ny lol

January 16th, 2008, 01:07	#15
Micaoct Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KGFK/KPDX Posts: 292	Re: NYC people at or considering UND Oh -10 isn't that bad. It's kind of funny a year ago when temperatures dropped to like 5 in Oregon I was complaining about the cold. Now it gets to 0 and I'm like hurray!! Oh wait, you mean Fahrenheit not Celsius?

January 16th, 2008, 19:44	#16
category Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 94	Re: NYC people at or considering UND I applied to Farmingdale last year and to UND. Do you think Farmingdale will be any better this year (fall)

January 16th, 2008, 19:51	#17
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	Re: NYC people at or considering UND Nah, Farmingdale sucks and always will as far as I saw when I was there. Don't make the same mistake I did, go to UND, don't look back, and maybe I'll see you there. By the way category, are you from manhattan? What high school?

January 16th, 2008, 21:52	#19
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	Re: NYC people at or considering UND arite i can see why someone would lie about being from jersey (sorry had to get it in there) but at lest you're close to the bride and the city and stuff like that. We should keep in touch about UND anyhow. Did you start flight training in jersey yet?

January 16th, 2008, 22:27	#20
category Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 94	Re: NYC people at or considering UND hey most of my time I spend in the city. If I say I am from jersey people will be like w/e since I live in a small town that nobody knows unlike Manhattan. I think ill just start flight training in UND. How about you?

January 17th, 2008, 10:51	#21
bronxpilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 72	Re: NYC people at or considering UND yeh what i should've done is just gone to und fall 07 and started flight training there, cuz i got accepted. What I did do is went to suny farmingdale for one semester. Now I'm back i the city goin to cuny and still workin on my private in long island ( probly do checkride in april). I guess next year ill ether go to another suny and go the fbo route or go into und in the summer wth my private, do all there catch up #### and start IFR flying fall 08 at und. I've also heard a lot of good things about Purdue aviation program, might be something else for you to look into besides UND, I'm doing that too. What you might consider doing is going out to long island to do an intro fliht just to see if u like flying, before putting down money for university flight school. I can give you info on the school I go to in Islip that does intro flights in the alarus for 99 bucks, but it might be a good idea to find a place that does them in the piper warrior as thats's what you'll be training in to start at UND. Taking five or 6 flying lessons for familiarity with basic turns and maneuvers, taxiing, takeoffs and landings , runways, airspace, and stuff like that I think will really benefit anyone before enrolling in a program( I know it would've done me worlds of good). You might also consider buying the Jeppesen Private Pilot manual and getting started on that garbage too.

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