University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustang

oktex88 · September 28th, 2007, 13:59

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UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA ORDERS CESSNA CITATION MUSTANG
The University of North Dakota (UND) has ordered a Cessna Citation Mustang to add to its fleet of more than 120 aircraft. The entry-level Citation jet will be used for executive travel and flight training, according to Cessna Aircraft Company, which announced the order on September 24. "We expect the Mustang to be a great recruitment tool for the school and an amazing opportunity for students as they transition from pistons and turboprops to flying jets," said Bruce A. Smith, dean of the university's John D. Odegard School of Aerospace Sciences. Cessna says UND is the first flight school in the country to order a Mustang.

I'd imagine there is going to be more "executive travel" than flight training in this thing.

TXaviator · September 28th, 2007, 16:30

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Originally Posted by oktex88

I'd imagine there is going to be more "executive travel" than flight training in this thing.

dont forget the asians.

Snickersnwa · September 28th, 2007, 17:26

Have they said anything about an anticipated delivery date? I hope this works out for the school after the thing with the Eclipse Jet fell through.

AngelFuree · September 28th, 2007, 17:39

Will I get to fly it for 102??

JaceTheAce · September 28th, 2007, 19:15

"OH my gawd, I'll get to fly a jet if I go to school at UND!"

(that's what prospective incoming freshmen will think...and exactly that their marketing idea intended)

TXaviator · September 28th, 2007, 19:52

jet U?

stuckingfk · September 28th, 2007, 19:55

I'm glad the Eclipse fell through. It's the biggest POS in the world.

I've had a chance to talk to a Mustang mentor pilot. He loves the plane. I toured the cockpit and sat in back. The thing is plush. The eclipse doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the Mustang. One is backed by a company with decades of experience, the other is a three ringed circus.

I know who will be flying it too. Lucky SOB!

aloft · September 28th, 2007, 19:55

Even if it's solely for exec travel, betcha it appears in UND ads....

TXaviator · September 28th, 2007, 20:12

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Originally Posted by aloft

Even if it's solely for exec travel, betcha it appears in UND ads....

thats a sure bet.

Stinger · September 28th, 2007, 22:49

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Originally Posted by stuckingfk

I know who will be flying it too. Lucky SOB!

Who's gonna get to fly it?

Also, at least we now know why UND is making us pay $25 to register for every aviation course.

JaceTheAce · September 28th, 2007, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Stinger

Who's gonna get to fly it?

Also, at least we now know why UND is making us pay $25 to register for every aviation course.

"Oh but it will save you money in your per hour flight costs" ...whatever! I only saw an increase. I'm so glad I got out of there before that scheme occurred.

Stinger · September 29th, 2007, 01:17

Yeah, the ATC people are getting screwed over on that because we aren't even flying anymore

BuickCFI · September 29th, 2007, 02:45

yeah, who will get to fly it?

stuckingfk · September 29th, 2007, 12:22

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

yeah, who will get to fly it?

If you're smart, you would be able to figure that out on your own.

I'm sure they'll type two because with the purchase of a new airplane, Cessna gives two training slots at Flight Safety for the PIC type.

BuickCFI · September 29th, 2007, 13:59

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Originally Posted by stuckingfk

If you're smart, you would be able to figure that out on your own.

I'm sure they'll type two because with the purchase of a new airplane, Cessna gives two training slots at Flight Safety for the PIC type.

i have a guess, but there are so many higher ups i am unsure. i may have went to school and currently instruct here, but i try not to get too involved with most things

StrangerDejaVu · September 30th, 2007, 01:39

There's only so many people who COULD flight instruct in that plane. Heck, it's hard enough to get a pilot with enough hours to teach in the King Air for the Air China students.

Micaoct · September 30th, 2007, 12:40

If they do implement it in flight training, I seriously hope it won't become a required course because it would suck having to pay $1000 per hour to fly in it (price a complete guess, but I'm sure it's gonna be crazy expensive).

BuickCFI · September 30th, 2007, 13:09

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Originally Posted by StrangerDejaVu

There's only so many people who COULD flight instruct in that plane. Heck, it's hard enough to get a pilot with enough hours to teach in the King Air for the Air China students.

and those people are my guesses as to who would get to fly it. one of whom i know for a fact has flown a citation but returned to UND many years ago

Bignellyxx · October 4th, 2007, 01:30

I have heard the Cheyenne went for $1,000 an hour if you were so inclined to fly it during its last few years.

How can you guys complain about the price at UND. What is it less than 100 and hour for the warrior and instruction is around 45. Where i am instructing a 172P is $115 an hour plus $50. With surcharges for fuel UND is typical.

MrLeisure757 · October 4th, 2007, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Bignellyxx

How can you guys complain about the price at UND. What is it less than 100 and hour for the warrior and instruction is around 45. Where i am instructing a 172P is $115 an hour plus $50. With surcharges for fuel UND is typical.

Because I am a paying customer. That entitles me to speak up about the price. And if they're charging $165 where you instruct, then surely they are HIGHLY profitable. And be that as it may, I can't imagine many people actually paying that.

airplanerik · October 4th, 2007, 13:07

And now some guy is buying UND two D-Jets as well. And we have no idea what we are going to do with them.

BuickCFI · October 4th, 2007, 13:20

i found out today who gets to fly the Mustang and the situation with it

TXaviator · October 4th, 2007, 14:40

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

i found out today who gets to fly the Mustang and the situation with it

soooooo...whats the situation!

BuickCFI · October 4th, 2007, 20:36

its a lease back

RyosukeFC · October 5th, 2007, 20:51

I also heard a rumor that two D-Jets will be coming here

September 28th, 2007, 17:26	#3
Snickersnwa Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MSP. GFK -> ONT -> CLE, now back to GFK Posts: 659	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan Have they said anything about an anticipated delivery date? I hope this works out for the school after the thing with the Eclipse Jet fell through.

September 28th, 2007, 17:39	#4
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,222	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan Will I get to fly it for 102??

September 28th, 2007, 19:15	#5
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,434	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan "OH my gawd, I'll get to fly a jet if I go to school at UND!" (that's what prospective incoming freshmen will think...and exactly that their marketing idea intended) __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

September 28th, 2007, 19:52	#6
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a backpack. Posts: 2,338	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan jet U? __________________ CPL AMEL-I 206 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

September 28th, 2007, 19:55	#7
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,605	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan I'm glad the Eclipse fell through. It's the biggest POS in the world. I've had a chance to talk to a Mustang mentor pilot. He loves the plane. I toured the cockpit and sat in back. The thing is plush. The eclipse doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the Mustang. One is backed by a company with decades of experience, the other is a three ringed circus. I know who will be flying it too. Lucky SOB!

September 28th, 2007, 19:55	#8
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,017	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan Even if it's solely for exec travel, betcha it appears in UND ads.... __________________ Commercial Pilot, ASEL/AMEL/IA 900+ TT/25 ME Mountain-qualified Search & Rescue/Disaster Relief Mission Pilot, Civil Air Patrol B.S., Psychology, Univ of Utah

September 29th, 2007, 01:17	#12
Stinger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montana/UND Posts: 432	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan Yeah, the ATC people are getting screwed over on that because we aren't even flying anymore __________________ Air Traffic Controller's motto----If the clouds are low and thick, pick up the phone and call in sick.

September 29th, 2007, 02:45	#13
BuickCFI Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South of the Border Posts: 1,928	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan yeah, who will get to fly it? __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI -Why is it when two planes almost hit each other it is called a near miss? Shouldn't it be called a near hit?

September 30th, 2007, 01:39	#16
StrangerDejaVu Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KGFK/KSJC Posts: 125	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan There's only so many people who COULD flight instruct in that plane. Heck, it's hard enough to get a pilot with enough hours to teach in the King Air for the Air China students.

September 30th, 2007, 12:40	#17
Micaoct Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KGFK/KPDX Posts: 314	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan If they do implement it in flight training, I seriously hope it won't become a required course because it would suck having to pay $1000 per hour to fly in it (price a complete guess, but I'm sure it's gonna be crazy expensive).

October 4th, 2007, 01:30	#19
Bignellyxx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 153	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan I have heard the Cheyenne went for $1,000 an hour if you were so inclined to fly it during its last few years. How can you guys complain about the price at UND. What is it less than 100 and hour for the warrior and instruction is around 45. Where i am instructing a 172P is $115 an hour plus $50. With surcharges for fuel UND is typical.

October 4th, 2007, 13:07	#21
airplanerik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 626	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan And now some guy is buying UND two D-Jets as well. And we have no idea what we are going to do with them. __________________ CP-AMEL IA CFI, CFII

October 4th, 2007, 13:20	#22
BuickCFI Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South of the Border Posts: 1,928	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan i found out today who gets to fly the Mustang and the situation with it __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI -Why is it when two planes almost hit each other it is called a near miss? Shouldn't it be called a near hit?

October 4th, 2007, 20:36	#24
BuickCFI Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South of the Border Posts: 1,928	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan its a lease back __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI -Why is it when two planes almost hit each other it is called a near miss? Shouldn't it be called a near hit?

October 5th, 2007, 20:51	#25
RyosukeFC Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KTTD/KGFK Posts: 107	Re: University Of North Dakota Orders Cessna Citation Mustan I also heard a rumor that two D-Jets will be coming here

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