Since we all care about Hockey...

JaceTheAce · April 29th, 2007, 23:05

So it looks like it might be a possibility, well, because we all love hockey and are so proud of it

and all students should pay for it since it's so important to the improvement of academics

, we will be having to pay a nice $35 per semester so that the UND Fighting Sigh-oxe can go to Division I. $70 per year!

Pending senate approval.

I'm so glad I'm getting the hell out. What an idiot...Kupchella.

Dugie8 · April 29th, 2007, 23:09

Hockey is akin to Acting in CA. Everyone thinks they can do it, but only a select few nutballs actually can.

I never got hockey, you have a stick USE IT!

Stinger · April 29th, 2007, 23:10

Yeah, I just heard that too, and in 2009 the cost will go up to around 70 dollars a semester. Also, next year all aviation classes have a 25 dollar "special fee."

undsioux1 · April 29th, 2007, 23:31

Sorry guys, but hockey is already D-I. The fee is for all other Fighting Sioux sports to move to D-IAA. Happens to every school when they decide to move up. Higher division results in higher fees which results in higher student fees. Hockey team has been there for years. now instead of football playing teams like West Chester, they will be playing better teams that nobody has ever heard of. D-IAA jumps usually include the "opportunity" to play D-I teams like Minnesota and WI. A swell opportunity to watch our team get killed.

TheShocker · April 29th, 2007, 23:44

Yeah, the fee increases are ridiculous. Especially when I have no interests for our sports team and how we do on the national level. The $70 fee increase also wouldn't cover the full cost of going to Division I according to the Dakota Student. So don't be surprise to see the cost rise to $140+

AngelFuree · April 30th, 2007, 00:05

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Originally Posted by Stinger

Yeah, I just heard that too, and in 2009 the cost will go up to around 70 dollars a semester. Also, next year all aviation classes have a 25 dollar "special fee."

That fee is already in place, actually.

TXaviator · April 30th, 2007, 00:09

i have yet to understand how a sports team benefits the university FOR THE PURPOSE OF LEARNING, which is what a university is for.

Bignellyxx · April 30th, 2007, 00:36

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

i have yet to understand how a sports team benefits the university FOR THE PURPOSE OF LEARNING, which is what a university is for.

Well a lot of people judge the quality of a school by it's size and athletics (f-ing stupid, i know). When NDSU nearly upset the U of M that was the best way for NDSU to get their name out. Now we all think that if the Aviation school wasn't at UND the school and town would implode. Truth of the matter is that outside of our aviation community few people know about the UND's aviation program. If they know anything about the school it is the hockey team!

undsioux1 · April 30th, 2007, 01:23

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

i have yet to understand how a sports team benefits the university FOR THE PURPOSE OF LEARNING, which is what a university is for.

Schools such as ND, not that much. Our hockey team brings quite a large amount of $$, thats about it. Look at a D-I school, they make bank off sports teams. Why do u think coaches get fired so often from college football when they dont make it to bowl games? Because the school makes BANK off events like that. More money = more opportunity for growth/new equipment/insert item here. And like nelly said, lots of schools are primarily known for their sports teams and such, its what draws many students to campus and companies to sponsor them.

JaceTheAce · April 30th, 2007, 01:47

I say we just get rid of the hockey team altogether.

Dugie8 · April 30th, 2007, 01:48

Just out of curiosity, how many sports did ya'll play in HS?

JaceTheAce · April 30th, 2007, 02:07

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

Just out of curiosity, how many sports did ya'll play in HS?

Golf. I was too busy with band to do other sports.

Bignellyxx · April 30th, 2007, 02:21

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

Just out of curiosity, how many sports did ya'll play in HS?

Just Hockey for 9 months each year

Stinger · April 30th, 2007, 02:23

Swimming from September to March. Then tennis from March to August.

TXaviator · April 30th, 2007, 02:43

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Originally Posted by Bignellyxx

Well a lot of people judge the quality of a school by it's size and athletics (f-ing stupid, i know). When NDSU nearly upset the U of M that was the best way for NDSU to get their name out. Now we all think that if the Aviation school wasn't at UND the school and town would implode. Truth of the matter is that outside of our aviation community few people know about the UND's aviation program. If they know anything about the school it is the hockey team!

i already knew that was the counterpoint, but lets look at the east half of campus.... can you point out anything that has directly come from the benefit of hockey sales/money/merch/etc etc etc???

we have academic departments in total shambles, lecture buildings that are desperately in need of modernization, amenities being built that are being funded from student fees....

id love to see a breakdown of where hockey revenue money goes, then id be more willing to support it, if only from a business standpoint.

TXaviator · April 30th, 2007, 02:45

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

Just out of curiosity, how many sports did ya'll play in HS?

club soccer, though the vast majority of my time was devoted towards my musical pursuits (jazz band 3 years, marching band, symphony, stage band, pit orchestra, choir accompaniment)

up until highschool i played soccer and baseball.

and even now during the summer i enjoy getting out 2 to 3 times a week to play soccer.

im not a total sports hater, and i do participate in sports and see benefits with them.... i am just hard pressed to see what a small hockey program in the middle of nowhere has to offer.

Wild_Weasel · April 30th, 2007, 02:49

I think this is part of UND's goal to gain a bit more notoriety and become more of a "research" university; at least that's what I've heard from some of the faculty. I'm not completely opposed to it, but I don't think there will be any benefits unless our football team manages to win something; which, umm isn't going to happen.

...and in high school I played tennis my 1st year then realized I was pretty good at running long distances (after I beat everyone in my class during the PE mile) and ended up running Cross-Country and Track. I did Cross-Country last year as a freshman at UND, but being in races where almost everyone can keep up a sub-5 minute pace for 5 miles was a little too much for me. And the coach here also kind of hated me since I wasn't "competitive enough." =/

TXaviator · April 30th, 2007, 03:02

oh, and ive been Orienteering ever since I was probably about 8 years old.

I'm not a fast or great runner.... just makes the map reading oh so much more critical! :-D

In JH and HS I regularly could beat all the ROTC drones without breaking much of a sweat. brains > GO GO GO GO RUN RUN RUN!!

anyone know if theres an orienteering club up here? not that theres much uh TERRAIN to navigate though... :-(

JaceTheAce · April 30th, 2007, 03:12

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

oh, and ive been Orienteering ever since I was probably about 8 years old.

I'm not a fast or great runner.... just makes the map reading oh so much more critical! :-D

In JH and HS I regularly could beat all the ROTC drones without breaking much of a sweat. brains > GO GO GO GO RUN RUN RUN!!

anyone know if theres an orienteering club up here? not that theres much uh TERRAIN to navigate though... :-(

I did orienteering in Boy Scouts. It was a LOT of fun. Then again, we had one of the largest, most active and funded troops in the entire USA.

TXaviator · April 30th, 2007, 03:16

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

I did orienteering in Boy Scouts. It was a LOT of fun. Then again, we had one of the largest, most active and funded troops in the entire USA.

i was a member of the Houston Orienteering Club.

very big. very active. and VERY CHALLENGING in the deep woods of texas...

oh and the heat.

hahaha

ChadW346 · April 30th, 2007, 03:18

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

club soccer, though the vast majority of my time was devoted towards my musical pursuits (jazz band 3 years, marching band, symphony, stage band, pit orchestra, choir accompaniment)

up until highschool i played soccer and baseball.

and even now during the summer i enjoy getting out 2 to 3 times a week to play soccer.

im not a total sports hater, and i do participate in sports and see benefits with them.... i am just hard pressed to see what a small hockey program in the middle of nowhere has to offer.

That makes sense, but as someone already said earlier, everything but hockey is moving up, since hockey is already D-I. I'm not educated enough on this issue to tell you if I really think it is beneficial or not, but it seems like a lot of schools really want to try to cash in on moving up to D-I (mainly for basketball and football). Ohio State is an example of a place where the sports bring in an incredible amount of dough. Also, many people like to point to Boise St.'s football program as the sort of overnight success story to model after, as they moved up through the ranks pretty quickly and found themselves winning a BCS bowl last year. From what I understand teams make quite a bit of money off of winning these games, and any T.V. time is usually viewed as great exposure. The school I am at right now is really starting to push their basketball program and just re-signed the coach to a $750k/yr, and I think 8-year contract, because they want to continue to get more national exposure, bring in more students, and bring in more money. Whether this is the right way to do things or not, really remains to be seen, I think. However, some places are making it happen for them, and a lot of schools are jumping on the bandwagon.

JaceTheAce · April 30th, 2007, 03:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXaviator

i was a member of the Houston Orienteering Club.

very big. very active. and VERY CHALLENGING in the deep woods of texas...

oh and the heat.

hahaha

I hear we have very active clubs and groups like that here in Grand Forks.

(I'm sorry people, some day I will stop LOL)

JaceTheAce · April 30th, 2007, 03:21

Oh ...speaking of things to do... I've been wanting to get into geocaching (I know, dorky

) but it sounds like a lot of fun!

Wild_Weasel · April 30th, 2007, 03:22

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

I did orienteering in Boy Scouts. It was a LOT of fun. Then again, we had one of the largest, most active and funded troops in the entire USA.

Gays are allowed in the Boy Scouts?!?

Edit:

JaceTheAce · April 30th, 2007, 03:23

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Originally Posted by Wild_Weasel

Gays are allowed in the Boy Scouts?!?

......also a disqualifier for "of moral character" for the ATP.

April 29th, 2007, 23:05	#1
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,624	Since we all care about Hockey... So it looks like it might be a possibility, well, because we all love hockey and are so proud of it and all students should pay for it since it's so important to the improvement of academics , we will be having to pay a nice $35 per semester so that the UND Fighting Sigh-oxe can go to Division I. $70 per year! Pending senate approval. I'm so glad I'm getting the hell out. What an idiot...Kupchella. __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan."

April 29th, 2007, 23:09	#2
Dugie8 Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: KRST Posts: 1,819	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Hockey is akin to Acting in CA. Everyone thinks they can do it, but only a select few nutballs actually can. I never got hockey, you have a stick USE IT! __________________ Aircraft without engine(s) prohibited... -KMIA 10-9

April 29th, 2007, 23:10	#3
Stinger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montana/UND Posts: 459	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Yeah, I just heard that too, and in 2009 the cost will go up to around 70 dollars a semester. Also, next year all aviation classes have a 25 dollar "special fee." __________________ Air Traffic Controller's motto----If the clouds are low and thick, pick up the phone and call in sick.

April 29th, 2007, 23:31	#4
undsioux1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 91	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Sorry guys, but hockey is already D-I. The fee is for all other Fighting Sioux sports to move to D-IAA. Happens to every school when they decide to move up. Higher division results in higher fees which results in higher student fees. Hockey team has been there for years. now instead of football playing teams like West Chester, they will be playing better teams that nobody has ever heard of. D-IAA jumps usually include the "opportunity" to play D-I teams like Minnesota and WI. A swell opportunity to watch our team get killed.

April 29th, 2007, 23:44	#5
TheShocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Queens/Grand Forks Posts: 346	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Yeah, the fee increases are ridiculous. Especially when I have no interests for our sports team and how we do on the national level. The $70 fee increase also wouldn't cover the full cost of going to Division I according to the Dakota Student. So don't be surprise to see the cost rise to $140+

April 30th, 2007, 00:09	#7
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ARB - in a backpack Posts: 2,471	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... i have yet to understand how a sports team benefits the university FOR THE PURPOSE OF LEARNING, which is what a university is for. __________________ CPL AMEL-I 250 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

April 30th, 2007, 01:47	#10
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,624	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... I say we just get rid of the hockey team altogether. __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan."

April 30th, 2007, 01:48	#11
Dugie8 Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: KRST Posts: 1,819	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Just out of curiosity, how many sports did ya'll play in HS? __________________ Aircraft without engine(s) prohibited... -KMIA 10-9

April 30th, 2007, 02:23	#14
Stinger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montana/UND Posts: 459	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Swimming from September to March. Then tennis from March to August. __________________ Air Traffic Controller's motto----If the clouds are low and thick, pick up the phone and call in sick.

April 30th, 2007, 02:49	#17
Wild_Weasel Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UND Posts: 212	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... I think this is part of UND's goal to gain a bit more notoriety and become more of a "research" university; at least that's what I've heard from some of the faculty. I'm not completely opposed to it, but I don't think there will be any benefits unless our football team manages to win something; which, umm isn't going to happen. ...and in high school I played tennis my 1st year then realized I was pretty good at running long distances (after I beat everyone in my class during the PE mile) and ended up running Cross-Country and Track. I did Cross-Country last year as a freshman at UND, but being in races where almost everyone can keep up a sub-5 minute pace for 5 miles was a little too much for me. And the coach here also kind of hated me since I wasn't "competitive enough." =/

April 30th, 2007, 03:02	#18
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ARB - in a backpack Posts: 2,471	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... oh, and ive been Orienteering ever since I was probably about 8 years old. I'm not a fast or great runner.... just makes the map reading oh so much more critical! :-D In JH and HS I regularly could beat all the ROTC drones without breaking much of a sweat. brains > GO GO GO GO RUN RUN RUN!! anyone know if theres an orienteering club up here? not that theres much uh TERRAIN to navigate though... :-( __________________ CPL AMEL-I 250 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

April 30th, 2007, 03:21	#23
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,624	Re: Since we all care about Hockey... Oh ...speaking of things to do... I've been wanting to get into geocaching (I know, dorky ) but it sounds like a lot of fun! __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan."

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