Underage Drinking

beetle · February 24th, 2007, 01:04

Alright so I know that if you get a DUI or DWI you can pretty much say goodbye to an aviation career or so they say. What can happen if you get a minor for underage drinking?

stuckingfk · February 24th, 2007, 01:08

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Originally Posted by beetle

Alright so I know that if you get a DUI or DWI you can pretty much say goodbye to an aviation career or so they say. What can happen if you get a minor for underage drinking? Seems like I might end up getting one at the number 2 binge drinking school in the country.

I never got one.

Just be smart, unless you already got one.

If you did, I wouldn't worry about it. Except that I think it's a misdemeanor. If it is, you can't work at most airlines because they fly into Canada.

ZUKO · February 24th, 2007, 01:13

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Originally Posted by beetle

Alright so I know that if you get a DUI or DWI you can pretty much say goodbye to an aviation career or so they say. What can happen if you get a minor for underage drinking? Seems like I might end up getting one at the number 2 binge drinking school in the country.

Just because the school is a huge drinking school does not mean you have to participate. If you do want to drink just be smart. DUIs certainely do not help your chances getting hired but I have heard it isn't a deal breaker depending on how long ago you did it and your record since.

Just do not drink and drive. If you must drink, do not get behind the wheel or drink in public if you are a minor.

Doug Taylor · February 24th, 2007, 01:17

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Originally Posted by beetle

Alright so I know that if you get a DUI or DWI you can pretty much say goodbye to an aviation career or so they say. What can happen if you get a minor for underage drinking?

Check the main site under "Hard Questions".

triple7 · February 24th, 2007, 02:50

Depending on how long ago it happened most airlines can be forgiving. Unless of course supply and demand prevails and there are more qualified/less convicted candidates to choose from. But I can tell you from personal experience that if you are upfront and admit to the mistake and make it very clear that you learned a lesson and changed for the better most airlines are satisfied with that.

a. make sure it is fully disclosed(DUI or minor poss)
b. let your interviewer know what you learned and dont try to make excuses

you will be fine...and ditto on the boozing and driving....its just bad news

UAL747400 · February 24th, 2007, 03:21

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Originally Posted by beetle

Alright so I know that if you get a DUI or DWI you can pretty much say goodbye to an aviation career or so they say. What can happen if you get a minor for underage drinking?

Do NOT get one. Just wait till your of age. It's seriously not even worth the "extra" social time you might get from drinking now.

I got a misdemeanor for possession of alcohol underage. It's not consumption, but it was looked at just as negatively. It's off my record now, but it wasn't worth that risk at all. It was no fun explaining it to my two last employers during the interview. They didn't care that it was possession, it was alcohol related, so I was pretty fuxored on that part of the interview. I managed to get both jobs where that issue came up, but it sucked getting grilled about it.

JaceTheAce · February 24th, 2007, 03:55

I never had to worry about that. I came to UND when I was 23.

California just doesn't give out "minors". In fact, I had never even heard of the phrase "yeah dude, I got a minor" before I moved to ND. In CA, if there is a loud party and IF the cops even come, they just tell everyone to go home. It isn't really as much of a problem there as it is here, but I think it's also more that the cops have better things to do.

Example: When I was 18 and had a few too many gin and tonics at a party. The party got VERY out of hand to where the party host actually called the police to have them kick people out (randoms always #### up parties). The police came and had us leave. On my way home we had another police encounter and got pulled over because my DD drove without her lights on (she borrowed her friends car and didn't know how to work the lights)...so we got pulled over by TWO cops because they assumed my DD was a drunk driver. They checked my ID, showed them I was 18, checked to see if I wasn't too drunk (I really was) and they just told us to get the hell home.

Different cultures throughout the region - alcohol is more taboo in ND (along with a lack of things to do) so people binge drink...

So... if you do decide to come to UND, BE VERY CAREFUL about drinking while underage. If you want to drink, do it at a chill house party where you know it won't be busted by the UPD.......... and don't even think about drinking and driving. EVER.

AngelFuree · February 24th, 2007, 05:56

Drinking in ND is taboo = COOLZ R0xorz (or however you spell it)
Please don't drink and drive, as cool as some kids here make it out to be.

TXaviator · February 24th, 2007, 12:26

####ing backwards hick states.

SeatClutcher · February 24th, 2007, 14:02

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Originally Posted by AngelFuree

Drinking in ND is taboo

HA!

Sorry. But that's funny.

JaceTheAce · February 24th, 2007, 14:21

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Originally Posted by SeatClutcher

HA!

Sorry. But that's funny.

It is taboo here. "Sven honey, we're Lutheran here sooooooh it's not good for youwah towah drink that big beee-ad alcohol, donchya know. It's against the church orders. If you do drink, you will go to hell."... "Yah ma, I think I'll just goooh start up my snooooowmobile and head ooover towah the lake to gooooh ice fishin, darn tootin'!"..."Oooohkeeay son, I will just knit here and prepare some lufse and wait for youwah to return." (Meanwhile the son gets his friend Björn to buy him a 24 pack of Keystone light at the bottle shop, since alcohol is big and bad you have to have a specialized restriced store to sell it called a "bottle shop"...never is it in the grocery stores readily available. YEEEAH! BEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!)......later that night "Dude I just fell off a 3rd floor balcony, it was sooooooo cool! yeah man I'm a prooven man with this beeeeeer! YEAH!"..........typical daily life of a North Dakotan.

UAL747400 · February 24th, 2007, 17:23

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

It is taboo here. "Sven honey, we're Lutheran here sooooooh it's not good for youwah towah drink that big beee-ad alcohol, donchya know. It's against the church orders. If you do drink, you will go to hell."... "Yah ma, I think I'll just goooh start up my snooooowmobile and head ooover towah the lake to gooooh ice fishin, darn tootin'!"..."Oooohkeeay son, I will just knit here and prepare some lufse and wait for youwah to return." (Meanwhile the son gets his friend Björn to buy him a 24 pack of Keystone light at the bottle shop, since alcohol is big and bad you have to have a specialized restriced store to sell it called a "bottle shop"...never is it in the grocery stores readily available. YEEEAH! BEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!)......later that night "Dude I just fell off a 3rd floor balcony, it was sooooooo cool! yeah man I'm a prooven man with this beeeeeer! YEAH!"..........typical daily life of a North Dakotan.

HAHA!! That's the longest I've ever seen you go.

TXaviator · February 24th, 2007, 18:53

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Originally Posted by SeatClutcher

HA!

Sorry. But that's funny.

agreed.

ive never understood what you guys are meaning to say by that.

alcohol is embraced and loved here. not taboo at all.

sure their drinking habits are a bit uncivilized, but "taboo" is not the appropriate word to be used

hell, i think alcohol is GLORIFIED here.

taboo is things like:

-being homosexual
-wearing nice clothing
-non monogamous, consensual relationships
-strippers

JaceTheAce · February 25th, 2007, 02:09

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

taboo is things like:

-being homosexual
-wearing nice clothing
-non monogamous, consensual relationships
-strippers

That's very bad. It's against the lord jesus christ our wonderful lovely saviour. Haven't you learned from church?!

There are no homo-secks-you-alls in North Dakota. The law says that only man and woman can marry so everybody abides by it. Conformity and uniformity is key here. Haven't you heard?

Kristie · February 25th, 2007, 02:23

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

It is taboo here. "Sven honey, we're Lutheran here sooooooh it's not good for youwah towah drink that big beee-ad alcohol, donchya know. It's against the church orders. If you do drink, you will go to hell."... "Yah ma, I think I'll just goooh start up my snooooowmobile and head ooover towah the lake to gooooh ice fishin, darn tootin'!"..."Oooohkeeay son, I will just knit here and prepare some lufse and wait for youwah to return." (Meanwhile the son gets his friend Björn to buy him a 24 pack of Keystone light at the bottle shop, since alcohol is big and bad you have to have a specialized restriced store to sell it called a "bottle shop"...never is it in the grocery stores readily available. YEEEAH! BEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!)......later that night "Dude I just fell off a 3rd floor balcony, it was sooooooo cool! yeah man I'm a prooven man with this beeeeeer! YEAH!"..........typical daily life of a North Dakotan.

hmm i dunno who your hanging out with up there but those aren't my lutheran peeps....must be that other synod! as far as the homosexual reference...well, i do remember in my young age when i did go to sunday school they talked about how marriage is between men and women...but shoot, what church isn't that way! and once you grow up, it's all about individual preferences and de-programming! haha

Doug Taylor · February 25th, 2007, 02:25

My Lutheran has a distinct penchant for dunkel schwaben brau!

Kristie · February 25th, 2007, 02:26

and Paulaner Salvator!

btw, we don't encourage underage drinking.. not if you want an airline career..all we ask is "don't be stupid"

undsioux1 · February 25th, 2007, 05:09

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Originally Posted by Kristie

hmm i dunno who your hanging out with up there but those aren't my lutheran peeps....must be that other synod! as far as the homosexual reference...well, i do remember in my young age when i did go to sunday school they talked about how marriage is between men and women...but shoot, what church isn't that way! and once you grow up, it's all about individual preferences and de-programming! haha

As a lutheran from the midwest trust me, hes pretty far off.

undsioux1 · February 25th, 2007, 05:16

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

####ing backwards hick states.

This coming from the kid from texas.

beetle · February 25th, 2007, 11:16

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

####ing backwards hick states.

This coming from the kid from texas.

Texas cant be much of a hick state........ Its not like George Bush is from there or anything.

TXaviator · February 25th, 2007, 14:21

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Originally Posted by undsioux1

This coming from the kid from texas.

youd be surprised. theres good reason that everyone wishes they were from TEXAS.

(recent case in point, "texas roadhouse".... wtf? why not north dakota road house? oh yeah, thats because ND sucks.)

JaceTheAce · February 25th, 2007, 14:23

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

youd be surprised. theres good reason that everyone wishes they were from TEXAS.

(recent case in point, "texas roadhouse".... wtf? why not north dakota road house? oh yeah, thats because ND sucks.)

Yeah plus the percentage of hicks from Texas seems to be quite low. The percentage of hicks from North Dakota seems to be...oh... about 101%. We have hicks everywhere...even in CA... think Fontucky and Clantee (Fontana is LA area's hick town and Santee is San Diego area's)... you get the usual confederate flag, 1982 bondoed up Camaro or Ford truck, whitewashed tapered mom jeans, mullet, etc. It's still in existence everywhere

TXaviator · February 25th, 2007, 14:23

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Originally Posted by beetle

Texas cant be much of a hick state........ Its not like George Bush is from there or anything.

a) he's an idiot

b) texas doesnt even vote majority republican for governor anymore. the last guy to get elected only got something like 35% of the vote, with two independents and a democrat taking the rest.

TXaviator · February 25th, 2007, 14:25

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Yeah plus the percentage of hicks from Texas seems to be quite low. The percentage of hicks from North Dakota seems to be...oh... about 101%.

exactly. yeah theres some country folk in texas, but JEEBUS ive heard more hick music, seen more trailer parks, and witnessed more redneckery since ive been in ND than i EVER saw in Texas.

not exaggerating.

the hick-per-capita is WAY higher here in ND

JaceTheAce · February 25th, 2007, 14:28

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

exactly. yeah theres some country folk in texas, but JEEBUS ive heard more hick music, seen more trailer parks, and witnessed more redneckery since ive been in ND than i EVER saw in Texas.

not exaggerating.

the hick-per-capita is WAY higher here in ND

Toby Keith, Keystone light, 1984 Pontiac Firebird (6-cyl auto version), flourescent lime green Arctic Cat jacket, Wal-Mart sweatpants, and Columbia Estates trailer!

I'm rollin'!

BTW, has anyone seen Columbia Estates? Those are some amazing "estates"!

February 24th, 2007, 01:04	#1
beetle Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 61	Underage Drinking Alright so I know that if you get a DUI or DWI you can pretty much say goodbye to an aviation career or so they say. What can happen if you get a minor for underage drinking?

February 24th, 2007, 02:50	#5
triple7 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arlington, VA(EWR on the weekends) Posts: 902	Re: Underage Drinking Depending on how long ago it happened most airlines can be forgiving. Unless of course supply and demand prevails and there are more qualified/less convicted candidates to choose from. But I can tell you from personal experience that if you are upfront and admit to the mistake and make it very clear that you learned a lesson and changed for the better most airlines are satisfied with that. a. make sure it is fully disclosed(DUI or minor poss) b. let your interviewer know what you learned and dont try to make excuses you will be fine...and ditto on the boozing and driving....its just bad news __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI- KJYO Commercial MEL/SEL, Instrument airplane EMB-145 SIC

February 24th, 2007, 03:55	#7
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,624	Re: Underage Drinking I never had to worry about that. I came to UND when I was 23. California just doesn't give out "minors". In fact, I had never even heard of the phrase "yeah dude, I got a minor" before I moved to ND. In CA, if there is a loud party and IF the cops even come, they just tell everyone to go home. It isn't really as much of a problem there as it is here, but I think it's also more that the cops have better things to do. Example: When I was 18 and had a few too many gin and tonics at a party. The party got VERY out of hand to where the party host actually called the police to have them kick people out (randoms always #### up parties). The police came and had us leave. On my way home we had another police encounter and got pulled over because my DD drove without her lights on (she borrowed her friends car and didn't know how to work the lights)...so we got pulled over by TWO cops because they assumed my DD was a drunk driver. They checked my ID, showed them I was 18, checked to see if I wasn't too drunk (I really was) and they just told us to get the hell home. Different cultures throughout the region - alcohol is more taboo in ND (along with a lack of things to do) so people binge drink... So... if you do decide to come to UND, BE VERY CAREFUL about drinking while underage. If you want to drink, do it at a chill house party where you know it won't be busted by the UPD.......... and don't even think about drinking and driving. EVER. __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan."

February 24th, 2007, 05:56	#8
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,374	Re: Underage Drinking Drinking in ND is taboo = COOLZ R0xorz (or however you spell it) Please don't drink and drive, as cool as some kids here make it out to be.

February 24th, 2007, 12:26	#9
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ARB - in a backpack Posts: 2,471	Re: Underage Drinking ####ing backwards hick states. __________________ CPL AMEL-I 250 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

February 25th, 2007, 02:25	#16
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 42,144 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Underage Drinking My Lutheran has a distinct penchant for dunkel schwaben brau! __________________ Doug Taylor iPhone Flickr Map

February 25th, 2007, 02:26	#17
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 19,358 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underage Drinking and Paulaner Salvator! btw, we don't encourage underage drinking.. not if you want an airline career..all we ask is "don't be stupid" __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

February 25th, 2007, 11:16	#20
beetle Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 61	Re: Underage Drinking Quote: Originally Posted by TXaviator ####ing backwards hick states. This coming from the kid from texas. Texas cant be much of a hick state........ Its not like George Bush is from there or anything.

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