Instructor Fired?

[JaceTheAce]

Originally Posted by excessthrust

Doug - out of curiosity, if names or conjecture were thrown out on this post and the parties involved disputed it or found it libelous, would the forum or the poster be responsible, and what would JC do? (not WWJD...different thing all together)

oh, by the way, i love the lamb chops puppet. My nephew used to watch that all the time when he was little

It wouldn't be the poster because you can't prove who the poster is, even if they "admit" their name.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by excessthrust

Don't link info to speculation. That's called libel and there's a legal responsibility for that. You should hope that the guy accused in this thread never finds this site because there could be repercussions!

[excessthrust]

I agree the pressure required is outside the scope of off-the-cuff knowledge. As long as you know - or know where to find - an inflation height, I think that's all the knowledge you should need to know without needing a MX manual.

[excessthrust]

Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

It wouldn't be the poster because you can't prove who the poster is, even if they "admit" their name.

Even if they admit their name, IP address, multiple references to their identity, and post a picture of themselves??

[Doug Taylor]

Excess, I don't know anything about the political workings of UND, but a couple of points:

a. On the threats - that's something we don't do around here. If it happens again, you will be removed from the website.

b. No one has access to IP addresses so unless you have a court-ordered subpoena, don't even ask.

[excessthrust]

Doug - there have been no threats on my behalf. I guess I really have no reason to. All I replied to Jace is that he seemed to think he was unidentifiable on this thread. I just gave ways he could be identified that I could think of off the top of my head. I was trying to be humorous - thus the smiley - and in no way threatening. Please do not jump to that conclusion.

XS

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Excess, I don't know anything about the political workings of UND, but a couple of points.

Butt kissing. There, you know all you need to know.

[JaceTheAce]

Originally Posted by UAL747400

Strut height is yes. The pressure to get said height, no(for the warrior, arrow and seminole). I don't even know if they use a pressure, or if they fill them until the get the specific height. I don't really care honestly.

That's a question one of the instructors who left UND recently would ask... down to the .0000000000000000001 mm.

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by excessthrust

I agree the pressure required is outside the scope of off-the-cuff knowledge. As long as you know - or know where to find - an inflation height, I think that's all the knowledge you should need to know without needing a MX manual.

Agreed. I was just annoyed by how long we dwelled on it during the stage check. He was like "so when might it be a good idea to know this pressure by heart?" Implying that I should know it off the top of my head. I just continued by asking what this has to do with anything. We were off on some kind of tangent, that's for sure.

I guess if I landed hard, collapsed the strut a little, happend to roll up to a gas station with an air pump, have a shrader valve conversion in my pocket for the valve on the strut, and a tire pressure guage, I could re-fill it if I knew the pressure off the top of my head. Even then, that's outside of the maintenance I'm allowed to do as a pilot per part 43. haha

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

That's a question one of the instructors who left UND recently would ask... down to the .0000000000000000001 mm.

Heck, I don't know if I even know it off the top of my head right now. Is it 4 inches inches for the mains and 3.75 inches for the nose wheel? During the walk around portion of the stage when they've asked that, I've always just said "my fist". Maybe they took that as a threat and left me alone on the matter. haha

[excessthrust]

Originally Posted by UAL747400

Heck, I don't know if I even know it off the top of my head right now. Is it 4 inches inches for the mains and 3.75 inches for the nose wheel? During the walk around portion of the stage when they've asked that, I've always just said "my fist". Maybe they took that as a threat and left me alone on the matter. haha

The nose could be about as much as your foot. And the diameter about as much as a baseball bat!!

[Doug Taylor]

Is this testable as per the UND curriculum or one of those questions that some instructors ask to intimidate students?

Just curious.

How my air pressure is in a MD-90 main tire? No idea because I have no tool to test it and there's no visual indication of tire pressure.

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by excessthrust

The nose could be about as much as your foot. And the diameter about as much as a baseball bat!!

Haha, or just say; "about THIS much" and round house kick the guy in the groin area.(since you'd be kneeling )

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Is this testable as per the UND curriculum or one of those questions that some instructors ask to intimidate students?

Just curious.

How my air pressure is in a MD-90 main tire? No idea because I have no tool to test it and there's no visual indication of tire pressure.

The required air pressure in all six CH-47 tires is 88 PSI. What else on the helicopter has 88 associated with it? The two FADEC test boxed should read 88 when the FADEC power test is performed.

How do I know this?

Some know-it-all IP made a big deal about it one day. Have I ever, EVER used this knowledge in a practical manner? No way.

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Is this testable as per the UND curriculum or one of those questions that some instructors ask to intimidate students?

Just curious.

How my air pressure is in a MD-90 main tire? No idea because I have no tool to test it and there's no visual indication of tire pressure.

It's printed in the POH so I guess they could fail you on not knowing certificates and documents. I only know of one check pilot that does this regularly. The way they ask stuff like this makes it intimidating. It doesn't have to be that way. That's a good opportunity for a learning experiance. They'd rather get their jollies off making the guy squirm though.

Now that I think about it, I don't think our tires have shrader valves on them either, so I couldn't even find out with a tire guage.(the autozone variety at least) You can tell visually anyway. It's not like the tires are on the ground long enough for it to matter anyway. I don't see anyone auto-crossing the airplanes either. Although that could be fun, maybe find a patch of ice and do some "Piper Doriftooo!". haha

[excessthrust]

UND curriculum is PTS curriculum. I don't see this being asked unless the goal was to figure out if the applicant knew where to find such knowledge. Or with the checklist items for the walk-around that state "check for proper inflation" I guess they wanted you to know or at least have an idea what was "proper" on a preflight inspection

[excessthrust]

Originally Posted by UAL747400

Now that I think about it, I don't think our tires have shrader valves on them either, so I couldn't even find out with a tire guage.(the autozone variety at least) You can tell visually anyway. It's not like the tires are on the ground long enough for it to matter anyway. I don't see anyone auto-crossing the airplanes either. Although that could be fun, maybe find a patch of ice and do some "Piper Doriftooo!". haha

All tires have valves...you need to fill them somehow...

As far as your drifting statement - I got this idea of a warrior pulling the parking brake and drifting into a parking T. Then when they pilots get out, saying "looks like you missed the mains"

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by excessthrust

UND curriculum is PTS curriculum. I don't see this being asked unless the goal was to figure out if the applicant knew where to find such knowledge. Or with the checklist items for the walk-around that state "check for proper inflation" I guess they wanted you to know or at least have an idea what was "proper" on a preflight inspection

I agree with everything you're saying. It's just that a few guys treat it like it's the end of the world and need to go off on a tangent about it. "ZOMG! He doesn't know off the top of his head what kind of oil to use when it's 10 degrees!"

[Doug Taylor]

Originally Posted by UAL747400

It's printed in the POH so I guess they could fail you on not knowing certificates and documents. I only know of one check pilot that does this regularly. The way they ask stuff like this makes it intimidating. It doesn't have to be that way. That's a good opportunity for a learning experiance. They'd rather get their jollies off making the guy squirm though.

That's scary. At the airlines, it's a working knowledge of how the system works, but the only hard figures you HAVE to know cold are the limitations from the limitations section.

[Dugie8]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

That's scary. At the airlines, it's a working knowledge of how the system works, but the only hard figures you HAVE to know cold are the limitations from the limitations section.

That isn't entirely true Doug. My DC8 type oral consisted of A LOT of pressure limitations, (fire bottles, tires, etc). There is a helluva lot more to flying an airplane than the bold face items.

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by excessthrust

All tires have valves...you need to fill them somehow...

As far as your drifting statement - I got this idea of a warrior pulling the parking brake and drifting into a parking T. Then when they pilots get out, saying "looks like you missed the mains"

Oh I know they have valves. But I don't recal that they are shrader valves, like whats on cars and most bikes. I think they're the narrower ones, but not like the ones on expensive road bike wheels.

Haha, I prefer that the pilots just get out and pretend like it's normal procedure. I bet the airplanes would put up with it just fine as long is if you happend to spin around backwards, you let off the brakes. haha

I've got a pretty good idea on a lot of the concepts of more advanced car control. I want to learn extreme taxiing next! Sheesh.

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by Dugie8

That isn't entirely true Doug. My DC8 type oral consisted of A LOT of pressure limitations, (fire bottles, tires, etc). There is a helluva lot more to flying an airplane than the bold face items.

I remember being asked what the nitrogen pressure charge in the prop hub in the seminole was. I think I still remember it, 11-14 PSI? What I don't remember is if this was to help or prevent the prop from feathering. If I could remember which damn direction the piston moved to feather the prop(increase pitch) I could remember.

[excessthrust]

I always thought that the rationale for some of these questions was because the systems are so straightforward, and there were only a handful of speeds you need to know there was room to learn more. I guess I always thought people asked extra stuff because otherwise the aircraft knowledge tasks in the PTS would be 14 seconds long. Knowing systems (Studying for the DPE's MEI POH test) in and out i think helped me with initial for the C90 and BE-400. In the airlines, don't you just have to drive? I thought there were teams of helpful, happy mechanics to take care of everything else

[Doug Taylor]

Bottle pressure IS a limitation: 1000 psi for a 767 and 1300 psi for a 767-300 with four crewmembers!

I guess it depends on the aircraft. I had to know a lot more for the 727 because of the nature of the systems and the nature of the job of a flight engineer. We pretty much had to 'build the plane' during the oral, but orals that I had for the 737 and MD-88/90 weren't as intense as the 727 FE oral.

But nothing was as wicked as my Beech 1900 FO oral -- a lot of UND grads, at that time, were in the training department so lots of questions about p2.5 valves, speeder springs in the FCU how many rows of axial flow compressors versus centrifugal compressors in the PT-6.

And the fetzer valve... and the flux capacitor!

[excessthrust]

Originally Posted by UAL747400

I bet the airplanes would put up with it just fine as long is if you happend to spin around backwards, you let off the brakes. haha

I've got a pretty good idea on a lot of the concepts of more advanced car control. I want to learn extreme taxiing next! Sheesh.

Do they still do 'storm stacks' at UND? All you'd have to do is wait for a little rain and drive at the hangar. Pull the parking brake long enough to spin backwards and let it off. You'd back it right into the hangar and eliminate the tugs completely.

Plus, you could hang a rearview mirror with some fuzzy dice for help.

Oh, dont forget to take care of the flight controls - Climb in, dive away!!