Eclipse Jet

Snickersnwa · January 29th, 2007, 15:46

Anyone know what’s up with UND’s acquisition of these? I thought we were told we’d be getting both of them in January?

oktex88 · January 29th, 2007, 16:06

The actual program for them is starting Summer semester instead of Spring semester from what I hear. Maybe UND decided to wait until the summer to get them? I wonder who will be instructing in those and how much time you get in it and the course cost.

TXaviator · January 29th, 2007, 16:24

i have a sneaking feeling it will be reserved for our international contracts.

ie - UND students wont be flying them.

StrangerDejaVu · January 29th, 2007, 17:16

I actually talked to JPAL about that very subject today. Pretty much, there's no new news since the meeting that was held back before break. The Eclipse(s) is/are still coming, but there have been manufacturing delays - I didn't get an expected arrival date. #17 was supposed to be here Jan or Feb, but that's probably been pushed back. I think the second one we're getting is in the 30's, so that may take a while. As far as I know, there are no plans in regards to international contracts for it, although it could be a possibility seeing as we have a couple of King Air 90's on the way in a year or so for international students. There will be a ground school open to UND students, but no one really knows quite yet what the flying options will be.

Finally, I believe it's Todd Gierke who's going to be the sole flight instructor for it, for starters anyway. The estimated cost will be 1 grand per hour, but could be reduced if it gets a lot of hours. And that's AT COST.

Southgater · January 29th, 2007, 17:17

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Originally Posted by oktex88

The actual program for them is starting Summer semester instead of Spring semester from what I hear. Maybe UND decided to wait until the summer to get them? I wonder who will be instructing in those and how much time you get in it and the course cost.

From my understanding the purpose of the course to be an introduction to VLJ's. It sounds like you will be able to purchase time in type however it wont be cheap. anyother speculation would be more heresay than anything else

UAL747400 · January 29th, 2007, 18:22

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Originally Posted by Southgater

From my understanding the purpose of the course to be an introduction to VLJ's. It sounds like you will be able to purchase time in type however it wont be cheap. anyother speculation would be more heresay than anything else

That's all I've heard about it as well.

PhotoPilot · January 29th, 2007, 19:11

*Hijack*

SnickersNWA - I can't tell you how much I miss Sky Harbor! What a great little airport! And to think that my house used to look right at it from across the bay . . .

Indianapolis has NOTHING on Duluth!

*End Hijack*

Snickersnwa · January 29th, 2007, 19:23

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Originally Posted by PhotoPilot

*Hijack*

SnickersNWA - I can't tell you how much I miss Sky Harbor! What a great little airport! And to think that my house used to look right at it from across the bay . . .

Indianapolis has NOTHING on Duluth!

*End Hijack*

Re-hijack…

It’s one of my favorite airports that’s for sure! I also had one of the craziest cab rides from the airport to Grandma’s restaurant. She was driving us going at least 65 mph (don’t remember the speed limit there down that road, but I didn’t think it was that fast) and she was all over the road! And, she waited for us to finish dinner as she sat in the parking lot outside Grandma’s to take us back to the airport. Crazy lady, I tell ya…

Anyways, that airport/scenery is phenomenal!

End hijack!

PhotoPilot · January 29th, 2007, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Snickersnwa

Re-hijack…

It’s one of my favorite airports that’s for sure! I also had one of the craziest cab rides from the airport to Grandma’s restaurant. She was driving us going at least 65 mph (don’t remember the speed limit there down that road, but I didn’t think it was that fast) and she was all over the road! And, she waited for us to finish dinner as she sat in the parking lot outside Grandma’s to take us back to the airport. Crazy lady, I tell ya…

Anyways, that airport/scenery is phenomenal!

End hijack!

*More Hijack - and a little bragging*

If you have a copy of the Feb Flying mag, look at the cover. That's me flying the Turbo SR22 Signature Edition last July, just before Oshkosh. The airport that we're doing the low approach at? Sky Harbor!

Ah, the memories . . .

UAL747400 · January 29th, 2007, 19:30

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Originally Posted by PhotoPilot

*Hijack*

SnickersNWA - I can't tell you how much I miss Sky Harbor! What a great little airport! And to think that my house used to look right at it from across the bay . . .

Indianapolis has NOTHING on Duluth!

*End Hijack*

Hell yeah!

(this pic is cropped)

Snickersnwa · January 29th, 2007, 19:31

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Originally Posted by PhotoPilot

*More Hijack - and a little bragging*

If you have a copy of the Feb Flying mag, look at the cover. That's me flying the Turbo SR22 Signature Edition last July, just before Oshkosh. The airport that we're doing the low approach at? Sky Harbor!

Ah, the memories . . .

Cool stuff! Will do! Never flown the SR22, but I did CFII in the SR20. I could only imagine what the SR22 is like… love that airplane!

I’ll be sure to pick up a copy now

Snickersnwa · January 29th, 2007, 19:37

Oh, and I should say that the instructor that I was flying with took that picture! Yeah, we were just a touch high… but we were coming in from the NDB approach there! It was one of my more memorable flights… love that time of day there!

PhotoPilot · January 29th, 2007, 19:38

22's a great plane - but I'm a little biased. It's by far the plane that I'm most at home in right now.

Just imagine the 20 on steroids!

Screaming_Emu · January 29th, 2007, 23:41

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Originally Posted by PhotoPilot

*More Hijack - and a little bragging*

If you have a copy of the Feb Flying mag, look at the cover. That's me flying the Turbo SR22 Signature Edition last July, just before Oshkosh. The airport that we're doing the low approach at? Sky Harbor!

Ah, the memories . . .

haha, in that case, there is currently a picture of you in my bathroom. Scary huh? :-P

TXaviator · January 30th, 2007, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Screaming_Emu

haha, in that case, there is currently a picture of you in my bathroom. Scary huh? :-P

same here. thats kinda weird.

hows that make you feel?

PhotoPilot · January 30th, 2007, 08:51

Hmm. I suppose that's the unfortunate result of being a lucky formation pilot one month of the year!

I don't think it will ever happen again since I left Cirrus a few months ago to work as a corporate pilot in Indianapolis. There aren't many opportunities for that kind of thing unless you work for a manufacturer or a magazine . . .

BuickCFI · January 30th, 2007, 12:27

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Originally Posted by UAL747400

Hell yeah!

(this pic is cropped)

wtf. UND wouldn't let me ever do a XC to Sky Harbor. i tried in 323 and 325, they would not approve it

UAL747400 · January 30th, 2007, 13:42

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

wtf. UND wouldn't let me ever do a XC to Sky Harbor. i tried in 323 and 325, they would not approve it

I just sweet talked the lead. The only lead that's a girl, so you can figure out who that is.

J/k

She let me go based on my flight time I believe. I had 220 hours at the end of 323. I know she specifically looked at my total time in my logbook before signing off, but she might have just been making sure I had enough time to fly the arrow solo.

I don't see what the big deal is in going there. It's plenty long enough for the arrow. Hell it's even long enough to fit the arrow's accelerate stop distance.

I know they let a few people even take seminoles in there when I was taking 325 last summer.

PhotoPilot · January 30th, 2007, 18:19

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

wtf. UND wouldn't let me ever do a XC to Sky Harbor. i tried in 323 and 325, they would not approve it

Why in the world not? It's plenty long for most single engine GA aircraft and it's in great shape. The cross wind off the lake could occasionally be a challenge - especially when you enter/exit the wind shadow of the pines - but Bong Memorial is only a few miles away if you can't get it on the ground at KDYT.

The biggest thing that I saw was students (experienced pilots at that) coming in high because the visual picture on the approach made them nervous. Just forget that the water is there, treat it like a normal landing (which it is), and enjoy the scenery.

If you're lucky, you'll see one of the Beech 18's on floats out in the harbor!

AngelFuree · January 30th, 2007, 18:41

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Originally Posted by UAL747400

I just sweet talked the lead. The only lead that's a girl, so you can figure out who that is.

It's highly inappropriate for you to be bad-mouthing your former lead.

Cool pics though. I remember seeing those when you put'em up on facebook. The captions were hilarious.

UAL747400 · January 30th, 2007, 19:15

Haha, I think this is my favorite one:

Me showing my disgust for the crappy GS from the wind.

(if this truly offends someone, I'll get rid of it. It's just ment to be a joke)

Siberianflyer · January 30th, 2007, 22:44

Wow, I've heard Sky harbor is a cool airport, but those pictures look like a lot of fun, little more interesting than the iron triangle.

BuickCFI · January 30th, 2007, 22:50

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Originally Posted by PhotoPilot

Why in the world not? It's plenty long for most single engine GA aircraft and it's in great shape. The cross wind off the lake could occasionally be a challenge - especially when you enter/exit the wind shadow of the pines - but Bong Memorial is only a few miles away if you can't get it on the ground at KDYT.

The biggest thing that I saw was students (experienced pilots at that) coming in high because the visual picture on the approach made them nervous. Just forget that the water is there, treat it like a normal landing (which it is), and enjoy the scenery.

If you're lucky, you'll see one of the Beech 18's on floats out in the harbor!

they said the winds would be a problem. even on a dual flight. this was 3+ years ago but still ridiculous if you ask me. UND just hates me, not sure how i ever made it out of there

CRJDriver · January 30th, 2007, 22:50

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Originally Posted by StrangerDejaVu

Finally, I believe it's Todd Gierke who's going to be the sole flight instructor for it, for starters anyway. The estimated cost will be 1 grand per hour, but could be reduced if it gets a lot of hours. And that's AT COST.

Who the hell will pay $1k/hr?!? How many are they suppose to get?

JaceTheAce · January 30th, 2007, 22:55

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Originally Posted by UND_Flyer

Who the hell will pay $1k/hr?!? How many are they suppose to get?

People with rich parents.

January 29th, 2007, 16:06	#2
oktex88 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 149	Re: Eclipse Jet The actual program for them is starting Summer semester instead of Spring semester from what I hear. Maybe UND decided to wait until the summer to get them? I wonder who will be instructing in those and how much time you get in it and the course cost.

January 29th, 2007, 16:24	#3
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: BTV - in a backpack Posts: 2,429	Re: Eclipse Jet i have a sneaking feeling it will be reserved for our international contracts. ie - UND students wont be flying them. __________________ CPL AMEL-I 230 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

January 29th, 2007, 17:16	#4
StrangerDejaVu Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KGFK/KSJC Posts: 125	Re: Eclipse Jet I actually talked to JPAL about that very subject today. Pretty much, there's no new news since the meeting that was held back before break. The Eclipse(s) is/are still coming, but there have been manufacturing delays - I didn't get an expected arrival date. #17 was supposed to be here Jan or Feb, but that's probably been pushed back. I think the second one we're getting is in the 30's, so that may take a while. As far as I know, there are no plans in regards to international contracts for it, although it could be a possibility seeing as we have a couple of King Air 90's on the way in a year or so for international students. There will be a ground school open to UND students, but no one really knows quite yet what the flying options will be. Finally, I believe it's Todd Gierke who's going to be the sole flight instructor for it, for starters anyway. The estimated cost will be 1 grand per hour, but could be reduced if it gets a lot of hours. And that's AT COST.

January 29th, 2007, 19:11	#7
PhotoPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 902	Re: Eclipse Jet Hijack SnickersNWA - I can't tell you how much I miss Sky Harbor! What a great little airport! And to think that my house used to look right at it from across the bay . . . Indianapolis has NOTHING on Duluth! End Hijack __________________ .......__o .......\<, ....( )/ ( ) If it isn't fixed, it's broken.

January 29th, 2007, 19:37	#12
Snickersnwa Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: GFK/MSP Posts: 694	Re: Eclipse Jet Oh, and I should say that the instructor that I was flying with took that picture! Yeah, we were just a touch high… but we were coming in from the NDB approach there! It was one of my more memorable flights… love that time of day there!

January 29th, 2007, 15:46	#1
Snickersnwa Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: GFK/MSP Posts: 694	Eclipse Jet Anyone know what’s up with UND’s acquisition of these? I thought we were told we’d be getting both of them in January?

January 29th, 2007, 19:38	#13
PhotoPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 902	Re: Eclipse Jet 22's a great plane - but I'm a little biased. It's by far the plane that I'm most at home in right now. Just imagine the 20 on steroids! __________________ .......__o .......\<, ....( )/ ( ) If it isn't fixed, it's broken.

January 30th, 2007, 08:51	#16
PhotoPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 902	Re: Eclipse Jet Hmm. I suppose that's the unfortunate result of being a lucky formation pilot one month of the year! I don't think it will ever happen again since I left Cirrus a few months ago to work as a corporate pilot in Indianapolis. There aren't many opportunities for that kind of thing unless you work for a manufacturer or a magazine . . . __________________ .......__o .......\<, ....( )/ ( ) If it isn't fixed, it's broken.

January 30th, 2007, 19:15	#21
UAL747400 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Grand Forks, ND (UND)/ Davenport, IA Posts: 2,204	Re: Eclipse Jet Haha, I think this is my favorite one: Me showing my disgust for the crappy GS from the wind. (if this truly offends someone, I'll get rid of it. It's just ment to be a joke) __________________

January 30th, 2007, 22:44	#22
Siberianflyer Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Dakota Posts: 38	Re: Eclipse Jet Wow, I've heard Sky harbor is a cool airport, but those pictures look like a lot of fun, little more interesting than the iron triangle. __________________

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