I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow.

ZUKO · January 25th, 2007, 21:54

Still trying to do my last flight before 14. Stupid cones/weather lol.

Anyways, my flight is at 08:30 tommorow and I am betting anyonen I get weathered. I am really excited because it is with my new instructor.

BuickCFI · January 25th, 2007, 22:48

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

Still trying to do my last flight before 14. Stupid cones/weather lol.

Anyways, my flight is at 08:30 tommorow and I am betting anyonen I get weathered. I am really excited because it is with my new instructor.

21G32kts, can't remember UND's limits but that is a little strong

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FM1400 31021G32KT P6SM FEW050 BKN200

taildragger173 · January 25th, 2007, 23:15

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

Still trying to do my last flight before 14. Stupid cones/weather lol.

Anyways, my flight is at 08:30 tommorow and I am betting anyonen I get weathered. I am really excited because it is with my new instructor.

You probably will get weathered. My flights are getting weathered too. Life goes on. You'll get done. No matter where you go to fly at this stage in your flight training, you will get weathered. Make the most of it. If you meet with your instructor tomorrow and you dont fly use that as time to have him/her help get you ready for your stage, that way the time isnt a complete waiste.

ZUKO · January 26th, 2007, 00:28

Word. Not this much though. I am the weather king.

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Originally Posted by taildragger173

You probably will get weathered. My flights are getting weathered too. Life goes on. You'll get done. No matter where you go to fly at this stage in your flight training, you will get weathered. Make the most of it. If you meet with your instructor tomorrow and you dont fly use that as time to have him/her help get you ready for your stage, that way the time isnt a complete waiste.

taildragger173 · January 26th, 2007, 12:41

I got weathered too a lot in that course. Actually the course where I got weathered the most was believe it or not 222. We had a layer of about 1200OVC all winter and we'd ice up and fall out of the sky if we went. For the most part this winter has been quite nice for flying. Just remember dude, we all get weathered...it doesnt matter where you're at location wise...it will happen. Did you know that Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach has more weather days than we have?

TXaviator · January 26th, 2007, 15:23

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Originally Posted by taildragger173

Did you know that Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach has more weather days than we have?

*raise the BS flag*

post numbers and source or ####

StrangerDejaVu · January 26th, 2007, 15:26

Even if they don't have more weather days, our weather will only ground you for a few days to a week. Their weather can wipe out their entire fleet!

TXaviator · January 26th, 2007, 15:37

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Originally Posted by StrangerDejaVu

Even if they don't have more weather days, our weather will only ground you for a few days to a week. Their weather can wipe out their entire fleet!

you'd think someone would have the presence of mind to invest in reinforced hangars there.

ZUKO · January 26th, 2007, 17:06

I flew. Whoot. I had a really good flight but my stalls were rusty after not flying for 12 hours. My stalls werent where we want them to be. I knew everything listed in the stan manuel but it was the stuff not listed in the stan man that was the reason I didnt complete the lesson.

Like knowing to wait to 70 knots before starting your stabilized descent. etc.

My new flight instructor is awesome. Aims was really busy for warriors this weekend and he is hoping for sunday morning to open up so we can go. He said he would give me a call later. Why would time slots open up?

BuickCFI · January 26th, 2007, 18:01

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

I flew. Whoot. I had a really good flight but my stalls were rusty after not flying for 12 hours. My stalls werent where we want them to be. I knew everything listed in the stan manuel but it was the stuff not listed in the stan man that was the reason I didnt complete the lesson.

Like knowing to wait to 70 knots before starting your stabilized descent. etc.

My new flight instructor is awesome. Aims was really busy for warriors this weekend and he is hoping for sunday morning to open up so we can go. He said he would give me a call later. Why would time slots open up?

what time were you up? i left in 108ND (not UND plane) around 1045 and got back around 1245 i would say. they made us circle in from 35L to 26. why i am not sure because the wind was 310@21G32 so it was fun. i had to save the landing from my student. we won't say what he is working on though...

JaceTheAce · January 26th, 2007, 18:04

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

i had to save the landing from my student. we won't say what he is working on though...

CFI haha.

BuickCFI · January 26th, 2007, 18:17

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

CFI haha.

missing an I

ZUKO · January 26th, 2007, 22:07

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

what time were you up? i left in 108ND (not UND plane) around 1045 and got back around 1245 i would say. they made us circle in from 35L to 26. why i am not sure because the wind was 310@21G32 so it was fun. i had to save the landing from my student. we won't say what he is working on though...

We were scheduled to leave around 8:30. We ending up going way over and I ended up missing English at 11. The flight was like 1.9 and after the briefing was over it was around 11:25 or so.

I was pretty happy because I landed coming back in the 15 knot or so cross wind.

There was a new controller. He cleared me to land at the 17 and I read it back to him. No mention. Finally another controller ended the confusion lol.

TXaviator · January 26th, 2007, 22:17

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

Why would time slots open up?

IM SAFE checklist.

ZUKO · January 26th, 2007, 22:31

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

IM SAFE checklist.

Yeah. I hope I get something for Sunday. I think the reason why my instructor is keeping saturday morning up till 10 open is because of the A in IMSAFE. Not sure if thats a fair assumption hehe.

I talked to scheduling and they said they had one warrior in mx and that people could very well cancel.

I wish I could just grab a glass warrior because there are plenty available and all I need to do are a few stallls and a power off landing which I have done before.

BuickCFI · January 26th, 2007, 23:03

holy crap. i just pulled out a x-wind chart

31024G30KT when landing 26 = 23kt x-wind. today i was a test pilot!

ZUKO · January 26th, 2007, 23:06

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

holy crap. i just pulled out a x-wind chart

31024G30KT when landing 26 = 23kt x-wind. today i was a test pilot!

Wow nice. Cross wind landings are a ton of fun. Its like a game almost. I was watching a video on some site last night that told me to crab up until the very last minute then go into the slip. Suppose to be more comfortable for passangers. Havent tried it yet.

BuickCFI · January 26th, 2007, 23:10

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

Wow nice. Cross wind landings are a ton of fun. Its like a game almost. I was watching a video on some site last night that told me to crab up until the very last minute then go into the slip. Suppose to be more comfortable for passangers. Havent tried it yet.

i actually prefer slip all the way down. some situations you have to crab until the end. like today. i don't think it is UND policy, but i also recommend no more than 2 notches of flaps when you get about 15kts of wind. the flaps just make it harder to land and a warrior/cadet only rolls like 500ft anyway, so who cares?

my best ever was a 27kt 80* x-wind component in the decathlon. that was a challenge. that was tower clearing us and everyone else for 26 when we should have been using 35 like today

TXaviator · January 27th, 2007, 22:15

ill take a steady crosswind over a hella gusty and turbulent headwind any day of the week.

taildragger173 · January 28th, 2007, 12:43

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

*raise the BS flag*

post numbers and source or ####

They get a thunderstorm every day more or less around 3pm. They go no-fly for about 2 hours, then are back in full force. Although right now, they have a lot of cancelations because all of their airplanes were destroyed in a tornado.

UAL747400 · January 28th, 2007, 14:16

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

Wow nice. Cross wind landings are a ton of fun. Its like a game almost. I was watching a video on some site last night that told me to crab up until the very last minute then go into the slip. Suppose to be more comfortable for passangers. Havent tried it yet.

Yeah, your instructor's right. It is more comfortable for passengers if you crab, then slip over the threashold or during flare for landing. You can do either method, but just beware that passengers don't like slips.

Beside that, if you plan on flying bigger stuff someday, the method you have to use in most of the bigger airplanes is some form of the crab slip method anyway. So in my opinion it's better to do it that way from the beginning. If you ever get into the really big stuff, you actually crab right into the touch down. No slipping at all.

I prefer to crab until going into the flare, and then kick in the crab. If the winds are a little more rediculous, I'll start the slip over the threashold to make sure that I can even sideslip enough to keep the airplane from drifting and aligned with the centerline.

You don't have to be crazy about it. Just a nice smooth transition from the crab to the sideslip. I've riden with a few people that kick the rudder like it's a soccerball and just manhandle the airplane into the slip. That is the wrong way. You shouldn't really be able to feel much in the transition except for the sideslip itself when you get it established.

TXaviator · January 28th, 2007, 21:54

find me a passenger somewhere that actually says "man, i really did not enjoy that slip before landing. i think i will fly another airline next time." and i will give you five bucks.

StrangerDejaVu · January 28th, 2007, 22:31

The arguement, from an instructor's point of view, is that students who are initially taught to crab until right before touchdown take a very long time to get the "sight picture" down of what an aligned 'slip to a landing' looks like. Often students will crab very well, but then throw the slip in there and land with a good deal of side-loading. By starting the slip further out, it gives some time to adjust (and let the instructor give some tips) before touching down. After they get that down, crabbing to a landing will be a piece of cake.

Snickersnwa · January 28th, 2007, 23:48

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Originally Posted by StrangerDejaVu

The arguement, from an instructor's point of view, is that students who are initially taught to crab until right before touchdown take a very long time to get the "sight picture" down of what an aligned 'slip to a landing' looks like. Often students will crab very well, but then throw the slip in there and land with a good deal of side-loading. By starting the slip further out, it gives some time to adjust (and let the instructor give some tips) before touching down. After they get that down, crabbing to a landing will be a piece of cake.

Spot on

Snickersnwa · January 28th, 2007, 23:54

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

find me a passenger somewhere that actually says "man, i really did not enjoy that slip before landing. i think i will fly another airline next time." and i will give you five bucks.

...man, i really did not enjoy that slip before landing. i think i will fly another airline next time...

January 25th, 2007, 21:54	#1
ZUKO Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 460	I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. Still trying to do my last flight before 14. Stupid cones/weather lol. Anyways, my flight is at 08:30 tommorow and I am betting anyonen I get weathered. I am really excited because it is with my new instructor. __________________ I am a firm believer that a fulfilled life is a life lived goal to goal. TT 76.2 hours First Solo: 12/9/06 Private Pilot ASEL: 5/9/07

January 26th, 2007, 12:41	#5
taildragger173 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Siberia Posts: 433	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. I got weathered too a lot in that course. Actually the course where I got weathered the most was believe it or not 222. We had a layer of about 1200OVC all winter and we'd ice up and fall out of the sky if we went. For the most part this winter has been quite nice for flying. Just remember dude, we all get weathered...it doesnt matter where you're at location wise...it will happen. Did you know that Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach has more weather days than we have?

January 26th, 2007, 15:26	#7
StrangerDejaVu Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KGFK/KSJC Posts: 125	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. Even if they don't have more weather days, our weather will only ground you for a few days to a week. Their weather can wipe out their entire fleet!

January 26th, 2007, 17:06	#9
ZUKO Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 460	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. I flew. Whoot. I had a really good flight but my stalls were rusty after not flying for 12 hours. My stalls werent where we want them to be. I knew everything listed in the stan manuel but it was the stuff not listed in the stan man that was the reason I didnt complete the lesson. Like knowing to wait to 70 knots before starting your stabilized descent. etc. My new flight instructor is awesome. Aims was really busy for warriors this weekend and he is hoping for sunday morning to open up so we can go. He said he would give me a call later. Why would time slots open up? __________________ I am a firm believer that a fulfilled life is a life lived goal to goal. TT 76.2 hours First Solo: 12/9/06 Private Pilot ASEL: 5/9/07

January 26th, 2007, 23:03	#16
BuickCFI Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South of the Border Posts: 2,132	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. holy crap. i just pulled out a x-wind chart 31024G30KT when landing 26 = 23kt x-wind. today i was a test pilot! __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI -Why is it when two planes almost hit each other it is called a near miss? Shouldn't it be called a near hit?

January 27th, 2007, 22:15	#19
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ARB - in a backpack Posts: 2,471	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. ill take a steady crosswind over a hella gusty and turbulent headwind any day of the week. __________________ CPL AMEL-I 250 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

January 28th, 2007, 21:54	#22
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ARB - in a backpack Posts: 2,471	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. find me a passenger somewhere that actually says "man, i really did not enjoy that slip before landing. i think i will fly another airline next time." and i will give you five bucks. __________________ CPL AMEL-I 250 TT / 25 ME ...and a YOB. 1st Place* - Sportsman - Doug Yost Aerobatic Contest 2nd Place - Sportsman - Illinois State Open Best 1st Time Sportsman - Midwest Aerobatic Challenge

January 28th, 2007, 22:31	#23
StrangerDejaVu Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KGFK/KSJC Posts: 125	Re: I promise you all that I will get weathered tommorow. The arguement, from an instructor's point of view, is that students who are initially taught to crab until right before touchdown take a very long time to get the "sight picture" down of what an aligned 'slip to a landing' looks like. Often students will crab very well, but then throw the slip in there and land with a good deal of side-loading. By starting the slip further out, it gives some time to adjust (and let the instructor give some tips) before touching down. After they get that down, crabbing to a landing will be a piece of cake.

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