Rant - Page 3

CAFFEINE · January 14th, 2007, 16:42

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Originally Posted by airplanerik

Oh god, your starting to sound like somebody I know...
How about you just go to ATP and get everything (commercial, instrument, multi, CFI) done in 90 days after you finish up your private here???!!!11

yeh yeh!

ZUKO · January 14th, 2007, 21:29

Update...

My flight went well today. I knew all the set ups pretty well. Finally did some ground reference maneuvers after not doing them for a looong time. We would have completed the lesson but we did not get enough time to do a power off 180s. It wasn't a big deal because we played to do 1 more flight before my stage check to make the maneuvers even better before doing the check.

After the flight, he asked if I had any questions. And I told him I didn't and that I just wish I was flying wayyyyy more. He said he has 2 students going in for their stage really soon and one about to after he gets better from mono. He then said he could talk to the guy who runs the schedules and he could see if we could find another CFI thats schedule would fit better. I said that would be great. He said he will set someone up to take over after I finish stage 14. He was nice about and told him how much I liked him as a CFI and that it was nothing personal.

I think everything went well.

So now I just need to study more and am hoping to get my 14 out of the way by the end of this week. I am going to call my CFI tommorow when he has his schedule in front of him. Hoping to get up Tuesday or Wesnesday. And then hoping to do 14 by the end of saturday or even sunday at the latest.

How hard is 14? I started filling out the review sheet online. Looks like und procedures, some far's, emergency procedures and maneuvers. What would it take for me not to pass?

surreal1221 · January 14th, 2007, 22:31

Go with plan B.

ZUKO · January 14th, 2007, 22:39

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Originally Posted by surreal1221

Go with plan B.

Still an option but I do not think I am ready to make any immediate choices on that yet. I wait to see how the rest of the semester goes.

BuickCFI · January 14th, 2007, 23:14

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

Update...

My flight went well today. I knew all the set ups pretty well. Finally did some ground reference maneuvers after not doing them for a looong time. We would have completed the lesson but we did not get enough time to do a power off 180s. It wasn't a big deal because we played to do 1 more flight before my stage check to make the maneuvers even better before doing the check.

After the flight, he asked if I had any questions. And I told him I didn't and that I just wish I was flying wayyyyy more. He said he has 2 students going in for their stage really soon and one about to after he gets better from mono. He then said he could talk to the guy who runs the schedules and he could see if we could find another CFI thats schedule would fit better. I said that would be great. He said he will set someone up to take over after I finish stage 14. He was nice about and told him how much I liked him as a CFI and that it was nothing personal.

I think everything went well.

So now I just need to study more and am hoping to get my 14 out of the way by the end of this week. I am going to call my CFI tommorow when he has his schedule in front of him. Hoping to get up Tuesday or Wesnesday. And then hoping to do 14 by the end of saturday or even sunday at the latest.

How hard is 14? I started filling out the review sheet online. Looks like und procedures, some far's, emergency procedures and maneuvers. What would it take for me not to pass?

stage 14 (15 when i did it) consists of basic knowledge, UND policys, and then the flying to/from a practice area w/o killing anyone = pass, it is your first and last easy UND stage check

the_dmn8tr · January 15th, 2007, 00:26

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

stage 14 (15 when i did it) consists of basic knowledge, UND policys, and then the flying to/from a practice area w/o killing anyone = pass, it is your first and last easy UND stage check

My 102/30 with Dan Malott was pretty easy.

You will do fine on your 14. I definitely overprepared for mine. To fail you would have to screw up emergencies or V-Speeds. Something real major. Something that came out of left field on mine was the markings on the airspeed indicator. Thankfully I was able to kind of halfway demonstrate that I knew what I was talking about. My favorite question on my oral was, "Can you wear sandles while flying in a UND airplane?" It was just a bunch of yes/no over P&P and questions based on emergency scenarios.

ZUKO · January 15th, 2007, 00:34

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Originally Posted by the_dmn8tr

My 102/30 with Dan Malott was pretty easy.

You will do fine on your 14. I definitely overprepared for mine. To fail you would have to screw up emergencies or V-Speeds. Something real major. Something that came out of left field on mine was the markings on the airspeed indicator. Thankfully I was able to kind of halfway demonstrate that I knew what I was talking about. My favorite question on my oral was, "Can you wear sandles while flying in a UND airplane?" It was just a bunch of yes/no over P&P and questions based on emergency scenarios.

How are you liking 221 compared to 102? Are there less flight labs and more simulator time? Hows the ground school work load?

TXaviator · January 15th, 2007, 02:16

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Originally Posted by CAFFEINE

yeh yeh!

hey! hey guys! this drink is for YOU!

TXaviator · January 15th, 2007, 02:26

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Originally Posted by BuickCFI

i am not in aviation to get that right seat in a jet with 200+ people behind me. i am in aviation for the love of it and am willing to fly just about anything as long as it is safe and will pay the bills

well ill be damned.

it is nice to know there really is a few guys out there of the same spirit, not just the OMG COOL BIG AIRLINER JET WOWOWO kids....

hell, ill settle with "reasonably-safe-and-will-probably-only-just-kill-me-and-no-passengers"...and-pays-the-bills

cheers.

Doug Taylor · January 15th, 2007, 02:27

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

hey! hey guys! this drink is for YOU!

Personally, I'm having a Bass Ale.

Remnants from my failed experiment making fish 'n chips in the deep fat fryer this evening.

Dugie8 · January 15th, 2007, 02:28

How the hell did you screw up fish sticks and french fries.....

Doug Taylor · January 15th, 2007, 02:30

Buying into the Alton Brown "hype" with a deep fat fryer.

That man lies...

Dugie8 · January 15th, 2007, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Buying into the Alton Brown "hype" with a deep fat fryer.

That man lies...

Frozen turkey, FULL TEMPED deep fat fryer (that is all those creations of satan are) equal big explosion.....

TXaviator · January 15th, 2007, 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZUKO

Did you feel comfortable flying around out of UND as a freshly minted private pilot? I am not sure if I will. I really want to take up my dad flying after I get my private, but I am not sure how comfortable I will be flying outside of UND. I have 10 hours of experience at two summer camps at ERAU where we flew 172s up and down the desert. But still, I feel like I will need a lot more training before I trust family members in my hands.

well, i just finished 221 this fall, and i went back to austin to visit friends for break.

my first "real passenger" was my best friend.

we went go check out a plane in austin and yeah, the first 23.6 seconds i didn't know what to expect from the whole FBO deal.

somewhere around the 25th second all the training kicked in and it felt right at home and i was 100% confident in my private training being fantastic.

hell, it was my first time flying in class C (really, no big deal. but not UND bubble!) and I felt perfectly comfortable, using what i had learned at school, and honestly, it was very enjoyable flying!

i did get some funny looks doing the super-extensive UND preflight that has been burned into my head though!!

oh yeah.... and checklists are optional. :-)

TXaviator · January 15th, 2007, 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Personally, I'm having a Bass Ale.

Remnants from my failed experiment making fish 'n chips in the deep fat fryer this evening.

hell, we had to do the charcoal-grill-in-the-garage last night because its just too damn cold to stand outside and grill meat for dinner.

Dugie8 · January 15th, 2007, 02:35

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Originally Posted by TXaviator

well, i just finished 221 this fall, and i went back to austin to visit friends for break.

my first "real passenger" was my best friend.

we went go check out a plane in austin and yeah, the first 23.6 seconds i didn't know what to expect from the whole FBO deal.

somewhere around the 25th second all the training kicked in and it felt right at home and i was 100% confident in my private training being fantastic.

hell, it was my first time flying in class C (really, no big deal. but not UND bubble!) and I felt perfectly comfortable, using what i had learned at school, and honestly, it was very enjoyable flying!

i did get some funny looks doing the super-extensive UND preflight that has been burned into my head though!!

oh yeah.... and checklists are optional. :-)

All kidding aside, I am glad you had fun, but checklists and good preflights are not "UNDisms" they are part of being a pilot and not something to throw by the wayside because you are out of the "bubble".

Did you make it over to the Hondo area?

the_dmn8tr · January 15th, 2007, 02:37

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Originally Posted by ZUKO

How are you liking 221 compared to 102? Are there less flight labs and more simulator time? Hows the ground school work load?

221 is a lot more laid back than 102, no rushing to get the Private. It is a lot of XC time. There are only 27 lessons and two blocks. The 2nd block, 21-27, is all in the sim. The Gorund School seems like a joke right now. Just review of 102 stuff, and only 5 block exams there. You definitely won't have any problems finishing 221 in the summer.

Doug Taylor · January 15th, 2007, 02:38

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

Frozen turkey, FULL TEMPED deep fat fryer (that is all those creations of satan are) equal big explosion.....

I've never had an Alton Brown recipe work, EVER.

His meatloaf sucked, the pot roast was laughable and the beer battered fish was terrible.

Entertaining show though!

TXaviator · January 15th, 2007, 02:39

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

All kidding aside, I am glad you had fun, but checklists and good preflights are not "UNDisms" they are part of being a pilot and not something to throw by the wayside because you are out of the "bubble".

Did you make it over to the Hondo area?

no no, make no mistake, i know that preflights and procedures are part of flying safe and responsibly. and i comfortably just continued to do what i have been trained as good-practice by checking out the unfamiliar aircraft before trusting my life and my passenger's life to it.

and for the checklist usage, the strict adherence to UND checklist usage pretty much has all the general procedures burned solidly into my head...so for a 172 vs a PA28, things worked just fine.

more of like at the FBO the responsibility for safe operation was all put on YOU (me) the pilot.... the FBO didnt act like they were there to babysit me, but yes i still fully realize that safe operation is key and flying can still be enjoyable without being quite so up-tight sometimes :-)

Dugie8 · January 15th, 2007, 02:41

I tried his recipe for BBQ ribs in the oven. The rub, the "resting" all that jazz. The damn things didn't cook completely and I was the sickest (not cool mind you) white boy in NC for about a wee, nothing solid came out of my body during that time.

But he does put on a great show. The hamburger rolled out on a cookie sheet to make "Wendy's" style patties works well, makes seasoning more even and the patties aren't so thick.

Doug Taylor · January 15th, 2007, 02:48

If you like to cook, epicurious.com is pure intarweb nirvana. I love that place!

Gotta make up with the wife? Try this with some mashed potatoes: Braised Short Ribs

the_dmn8tr · January 15th, 2007, 03:00

Or you could just non-rev to KC to pick up some REAL barbeque ribs. Gate's, Jack Stack, Oklahoma Joe's, so many to choose from!

JaceTheAce · January 15th, 2007, 04:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Personally, I'm having a Bass Ale.

Remnants from my failed experiment making fish 'n chips in the deep fat fryer this evening.

I'm drinking a Killian's at the moment

January 14th, 2007, 21:29	#52
ZUKO Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 460	Re: Rant Update... My flight went well today. I knew all the set ups pretty well. Finally did some ground reference maneuvers after not doing them for a looong time. We would have completed the lesson but we did not get enough time to do a power off 180s. It wasn't a big deal because we played to do 1 more flight before my stage check to make the maneuvers even better before doing the check. After the flight, he asked if I had any questions. And I told him I didn't and that I just wish I was flying wayyyyy more. He said he has 2 students going in for their stage really soon and one about to after he gets better from mono. He then said he could talk to the guy who runs the schedules and he could see if we could find another CFI thats schedule would fit better. I said that would be great. He said he will set someone up to take over after I finish stage 14. He was nice about and told him how much I liked him as a CFI and that it was nothing personal. I think everything went well. So now I just need to study more and am hoping to get my 14 out of the way by the end of this week. I am going to call my CFI tommorow when he has his schedule in front of him. Hoping to get up Tuesday or Wesnesday. And then hoping to do 14 by the end of saturday or even sunday at the latest. How hard is 14? I started filling out the review sheet online. Looks like und procedures, some far's, emergency procedures and maneuvers. What would it take for me not to pass? __________________ I am a firm believer that a fulfilled life is a life lived goal to goal. TT 76.2 hours First Solo: 12/9/06 Private Pilot ASEL: 5/9/07

January 14th, 2007, 22:31	#53
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 10,431	Re: Rant Go with plan B. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \| IVAW \| ACLU \|

January 15th, 2007, 02:28	#61
Dugie8 Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: KRST Posts: 1,819	Re: Rant How the hell did you screw up fish sticks and french fries..... __________________ Aircraft without engine(s) prohibited... -KMIA 10-9

January 15th, 2007, 02:30	#62
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 42,144 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Rant Buying into the Alton Brown "hype" with a deep fat fryer. That man lies...

January 15th, 2007, 02:41	#70
Dugie8 Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: KRST Posts: 1,819	Re: Rant I tried his recipe for BBQ ribs in the oven. The rub, the "resting" all that jazz. The damn things didn't cook completely and I was the sickest (not cool mind you) white boy in NC for about a wee, nothing solid came out of my body during that time. But he does put on a great show. The hamburger rolled out on a cookie sheet to make "Wendy's" style patties works well, makes seasoning more even and the patties aren't so thick. __________________ Aircraft without engine(s) prohibited... -KMIA 10-9

January 15th, 2007, 02:48	#71
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 42,144 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Rant If you like to cook, epicurious.com is pure intarweb nirvana. I love that place! Gotta make up with the wife? Try this with some mashed potatoes: Braised Short Ribs

January 15th, 2007, 03:00	#72
the_dmn8tr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Olathe, KS/ Grand Forks, ND Posts: 462	Re: Rant Or you could just non-rev to KC to pick up some REAL barbeque ribs. Gate's, Jack Stack, Oklahoma Joe's, so many to choose from!

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