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Old August 12th, 2006, 19:40   #26
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Instructing is not about time building, if that is all you are gracing UND with your presence after graduating for, then go elsewhere. We, the industry, need instructors who WANT to instruct and pass on good fundamental skills and discipline.
I'm not saying flight instructing is all about time building. Flight Instructing, Banner Towing, Aerial Photography, etcetera, happens to BE a great time building aviation job. So is time earned in a a regional gig. So is the right seat job in a 747. We all go through stepping stones to get to where we eventually want to be, whether it be flying King Air C90's forever (which would be a pretty cool job as it is), owning a flight school and flight instructing, or flying 737's for Southwest.

If one doesn't want to be a true teacher at heart, then flight instructing indeed is not the route to take. If you don't WANT to instruct or have the capacity to successfully teach a difficult subject, flight instructing is not the way to go. I know that.

This is not all what I'm gracing UND with my presence Dugie. I actually want to teach aviation. I have always had a passion to share knowledge with others and find innovative ways to work around their learning retention/comprehension obstacles. I don't have any hurry to get "that corporate" or "that airline" job because I'd be very comfortable flight instructing part time while continuing my current job I've had for the past 6 years in real estate appraisal. I'm a mirror image of my father in every way as far as interests and personality - My father flight instructed part time for several years while operating his medium sized dental lab. He was very happy doing this as he has a passion to teach. He has a passion to give dental seminars, mentor new dental technicians, and also teach aviation.

I too agree that we need instructors who are both passionate teachers at heart and excellent aviators. But, if one happens to have a goal of moving up to a more challenging aviation job, there is nothing wrong with seeing flight instructing as a stepping stone.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 04:10   #27
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Believe it or not, there are people who like it here. I never understood why you guys who hate it here so much stay. Nobody really cares if you like it or not.
thanks for the comments ill be sure and file that gem away.

ok so far ive gotten a reply from caffiene that he will stay and instruct here because he likes it here, fair enough. any other reasons?

and as for why im staying here despite my intense hatred of this state/city

well lets enumerate some reasons

1) financial. i dont have the resources to get up and move again. also, tuition is relatively cheap here, and i dont have the resources to go pay out of state costs again somewhere new

2) length of program. i looked into OU pretty seriously but due to program structures i would have to spend another 3 or 4 years there as the course structure does not line up very well. i only have 2 more years here.

3) quality of school/instruction/equipment. obviously we have great stuff here.


mind you, if i was a first semester freshman who came here, as opposed to a 70 hour transfer student, i would have promptly got up and left as soon as my first semester was over. however in my situation im ready to just ####in get done with school and get on with my life.

doesnt mean i still cant hate the place while im here.

school/aviation here = good
state/city/everythingelse = bad
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Old August 13th, 2006, 14:01   #28
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so about the orientation.... anybody heard ?
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so about the orientation.... anybody heard ?
Yeah, it's going to be at the same place we took the test at... 8am on the 17th (thursday)
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so it is just the one day from what you guys understand ?? I just heard it was thurs, fri, and sat. from someone and wanted to makes sure, 'cause i've still got another week at my old job.
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I heard it is thurs, fri, and sat.

Has anybody else been assigned students? If so, what courses are you teaching?
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I heard it is thurs, fri, and sat.

Has anybody else been assigned students? If so, what courses are you teaching?
It starts for the new hires at 8 am in CH210 on Thursday, August 17th. The rest of the CFI's join in at 1 pm on Thursday. I think the reason for the extra few hours is due to AIMS and Crewlink help (I'm sure there are a couple extra things too).

The fall workshops runs all day Thursday and Friday. Half days on Saturday and Monday.

As for students, I was given two 414's, 221 and a 222.

Congrats to everyone that was hired.
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Has anybody else been assigned students? If so, what courses are you teaching?
I haven’t gotten anything yet, and I’m guessing that they’re done assigning instructors to flight labs by now. Still got my fingers crossed though…
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Relax there, Mikey. I don't think any part-timers have been assigned yet, from what I've heard. I should hope they will in the next couple of days, since they're all getting back from the weekend and vacations!

On another note, it's quite nice of them to supply us with epaulets, but I'd appreciate a shirt to go along with it! Pricey buggers, I mean, don't they know we're FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS? I'm gunna be eating ramen for two weeks to afford this shirt!
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Relax there, Mikey. I don't think any part-timers have been assigned yet, from what I've heard. I should hope they will in the next couple of days, since they're all getting back from the weekend and vacations!

On another note, it's quite nice of them to supply us with epaulets, but I'd appreciate a shirt to go along with it! Pricey buggers, I mean, don't they know we're FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS? I'm gunna be eating ramen for two weeks to afford this shirt!
hahaha! I got two short sleeve shirts and one long sleeve shirt... something like 77 bucks if i remember correctly! At least the epaulets are free. Oh, and since you're taking MEI with us I thought I’d let you know that you can get the MEI TCO for free at the airport.
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Yeah relax there Mikey
haha, ok i can relax a little now... jk. I got two 102 students assigned to me today!
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haha, ok i can relax a little now... jk. I got two 102 students assigned to me today!
Those poor 102's!
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got the official word that the workshop will run on thursday, friday, saturday and monday; nothing on sunday. Does anyone know what time it ends each day ?
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I would bet 1700 on thursday and friday. Probably less on the weekends. Just a hunch though.

They must have not gotten to the "R" section of the alphabet, cuz I'm still yet to be assigned! Maybe they'll run out of 102's and give me a 415 or something :-D
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Old August 15th, 2006, 20:00   #41
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No way, J

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Where is everyone picking up their shirts from? Is there a place in town or do they need to be ordered online?
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Where is everyone picking up their shirts from? Is there a place in town or do they need to be ordered online?

There is, or used to be, a mens suit shop next to Applebees on Columbia road, that sells pilot shirts. If that doesn't work out, try
http://www.stopoverstore.com/product...d2/696/nid/678

the commander version of the Van Heusen line is a great shirt
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got the official word that the workshop will run on thursday, friday, saturday and monday; nothing on sunday. Does anyone know what time it ends each day ?

If you would read all the posts you could have found out earlier when the workshop is.

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There is, or used to be, a mens suit shop next to Applebees on Columbia road, that sells pilot shirts. If that doesn't work out, try
http://www.stopoverstore.com/product...d2/696/nid/678

the commander version of the Van Heusen line is a great shirt
I'm not exactly sure, but I thought that place went out of business. I think I remember seeing some sort of "going out of business sale".
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silverman's closed? that sucks. those folks were nice.
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Old August 18th, 2006, 21:37   #48
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If you guys need pilot shirts in a hurry, either aerostop in Ryan hall, or there is a uniform shop beside quiznos on 32nd and columbia that has a bunch in stock.

Also, does anyone know anything about a program called opentime... someone told me it's a program where instructors post students who need picked up when they're gone, or something like that, but i can't find it on UND anywhere.
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Another place for shirts -> http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/secd/40
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