Temporary certificates...

[UAL747400]

So I just finished up 325 the other day and was expecting to get my temporary certificate on the spot or maybe a day later. However this is not the case. Apparently it can take a couple weeks or more!! I'm not going to go into a huge rant about it, but I very well could. I'll probably do it anyway.

So how long did it take you guys to get your temporary certificates?

[JaceTheAce]

Approximately 7 years, considering how long it takes for your documents to move up the 53 ranks of the political powers at UND, then go through a rigorous Judicial Review process, followed by the mandatory 8 week UND Logbook Hostage Program stay in locked archives, where you documents sit there untouched (required by UND Aerospace, Inc. law 44394.C.34)

[CRJ700]

Huh, I got mine the day of getting my private, maybe 20 minutes after my flight at UND. Weird

[CAFFEINE]

About 3-4 weeks.

[Snickersnwa]

Originally Posted by CAFFEINE

About 3-4 weeks.

Jason, have you gotten your CFI/CFII temp yet? I'm still waiting and am curious if you have gotten yours yet.

[Snickersnwa]

Originally Posted by CRJ700

Huh, I got mine the day of getting my private, maybe 20 minutes after my flight at UND. Weird

Did you do it Part 61?

[CAFFEINE]

Originally Posted by Snickersnwa

Jason, have you gotten your CFI/CFII temp yet? I'm still waiting and am curious if you have gotten yours yet.

Still waiting for mine too.

EDIT: Deb just called and mine is ready!

[Blue Side Up]

I finished my 325 stage around the first half of May and i did not get my temp until june 12.

[AngelFuree]

It has always taken me like 3 weeks to get the temp...god....

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Approximately 7 years, considering how long it takes for your documents to move up the 53 ranks of the political powers at UND, then go through a rigorous Judicial Review process, followed by the mandatory 8 week UND Logbook Hostage Program stay in locked archives, where you documents sit there untouched (required by UND Aerospace, Inc. law 44394.C.34)

That HAS to be true. There is no reason it should take that friggen long. NONE!! I could see it maybe taking a couple days, given the number of students here. This is a bunch of crap, pure crap!!

Honestly I wouldnt really care except that I had to surrender my PPL.

[Snickersnwa]

I was told by records that they cannot process your certificate until your ground school grade has been entered into AIMS. So, if you finish your flying before grades are posted… It'll obviously seem to take longer.

[roundout]

Originally Posted by UAL747400

That HAS to be true. There is no reason it should take that friggen long. NONE!! I could see it maybe taking a couple days, given the number of students here. This is a bunch of crap, pure crap!!

Honestly I wouldnt really care except that I had to surrender my PPL.

UND records doesn't send in 8710s and other paperwork to the FSDO in FAR until they have physically filled a big box with them. sometimes, like during the pre-xmas and pre-summer stage check rushes, the box fills up quickly. if you pass a checkride in the middle of a semester, it can take longer for the box to fill up, so it takes longer to get your temp.

this is how the FSDO explained it to me when i called to complain about a temp which i thought took too long to arrive. granted it's a couple years back, but i imagine the process hasn't changed much.

[UAL747400]

Originally Posted by roundout

UND records doesn't send in 8710s and other paperwork to the FSDO in FAR until they have physically filled a big box with them. sometimes, like during the pre-xmas and pre-summer stage check rushes, the box fills up quickly. if you pass a checkride in the middle of a semester, it can take longer for the box to fill up, so it takes longer to get your temp.

this is how the FSDO explained it to me when i called to complain about a temp which i thought took too long to arrive. granted it's a couple years back, but i imagine the process hasn't changed much.

But you get a temporary certificate through the school, (or FBO if you get a new cert. that way) do you not? So what does the FSDO have to do with it. I got my PPL temp. on the spot at the FBO I was at prior to UND. The temporary certificate is for that period of time in which your records get sent to the FAA and then the permanant certificate back to you right?

I still don't see why I had to surrender my PPL. I mean, I haven't recieved a new certificate yet, so why would I have to get rid of it? I was just so happy to finish the stage check that I didn't care to question anything at the time. Not that I could have changed anything.

[roundout]

the school has no authority to give out temporaries, and certainly an FBO wouldn't. the temporary airman certificate comes from the FAA. in the part 61 world, the DE gives the applicant a temporary on the spot after a checkride is passed. they then send in the appropriate paperwork and the FAA sends a permanent. UND has to do the same, but they don't seem to have the authority to issue a temporary. the logic is beyond me. if the FAA trusts the school enough to have in-house examining, they should trust it enough to be able to issue temporaries.