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Old May 30th, 2006, 22:32   #1
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Default What, does flight ops assign instructors to you by drawing out of a hat?

So my previous instructor for 325 just took a pretty cool sounding job in California. (lucky him ) So the guy they've assigned to me isn't even current and has to do a standardization flight tommorrow. IF the weather holds. So my question is this, when assigning me a new instructor, why not take 20 seconds to find someone thats current? I know of at least 2 that are and also have space in their schedule.

I know I know, its probably an automated system and this is just a meaningless rant. It's still kind of annoying sitting around for 2 or more days. Especially since i have to work all weekend and probably wont have time to do anything since I'm up to the cross countries.

Oh well, there's always something that trys(and is usually successful) in preventing me from finishing the flight lab when I want to.
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It's not automatic. Usually lead/course manager will assign a new instructor to you. If you want a certain instructor talk to a lead, they can point you in the right direction!
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Old May 31st, 2006, 00:27   #3
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I probably should have done that since I knew my previous instructor was probably going to be leaving a week in advance.

Delays just annoy the crap out of me. Especially when its not weather or my doing. That and this is the summer session, not the regular semester, so time is even tighter. As long as the weather holds for him to get his stuff done tommorrow, I should be alright for the most part.
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See if you can fly with someone until your new instructor gets the standardization ride done.
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See if you can fly with someone until your new instructor gets the standardization ride done.
I agree! Go talk to whoever is the lead in charge of 325, is it still Brian Frank? If you are close to finishing up or it will cause a major delay in your summer flight schedule, I would press the heck out of them to get you someone to fly with. Even if someone could push ahead and keep doing the briefings or sims. Hopefully you have lesson 83 and 84 done so you can push on. Good luck and don't let them slow you down like that, speak up.
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So my previous instructor for 325 just took a pretty cool sounding job in California. (lucky him ) So the guy they've assigned to me isn't even current and has to do a standardization flight tommorrow. IF the weather holds. So my question is this, when assigning me a new instructor, why not take 20 seconds to find someone thats current? I know of at least 2 that are and also have space in their schedule.

I know I know, its probably an automated system and this is just a meaningless rant. It's still kind of annoying sitting around for 2 or more days. Especially since i have to work all weekend and probably wont have time to do anything since I'm up to the cross countries.

Oh well, there's always something that trys(and is usually successful) in preventing me from finishing the flight lab when I want to.
I can help out, what lessons do you need done?
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yes UND puts them in a straw hat, mixes them waits about 1-6 days to go tend to the farms and let the paper and hat settle (explains why everything takes so long here), milk the cow, cook the pig, then they go back in draw the names out of the hat, then since UND is so updated with modern tech they send a telegraph which takes another day or so to get to the secretary, then the secretary's large hips slows her down and prevents her from processing it. When she finally does, the Student is notified, student attempts to call CFI via house phone (lot of CFI's here have no mobile, despite the fact its a professional aerospace school) CFI doesnt pick up either hes having an affair with another incompetant female flight instructor who got hired because she slept with the whole hiring board , hes at a bar, and or hes working 4 other jobs to be able to purchase his ramen. CFI is finally contacted arrangments are made 2-4 days from when he is contacted because the awesome UND scheduling assigned him 20 or so students + 4 stages. By the time you go out and fly the beautiful mdiwest Weather bites you by some gay a$$ frotn moving in brining in 200 foot cielings, hail, freezing temps, icing, thnderstorms, and what not (midn you its probably summer). and that system does not move for 5 days. so sooner than you know it your behind templete, and have are not current at flying. Then you end up getting a stage pilot who asks "How many revolutions per minute/second does the gyroscopic instrument of rigidity in space spin?, be exact to the thousandths." so that is how you get delayed at UND ON A NORMAL BASIS.
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yes UND puts them in a straw hat, mixes them waits about 1-6 days to go tend to the farms and let the paper and hat settle (explains why everything takes so long here), milk the cow, cook the pig, then they go back in draw the names out of the hat, then since UND is so updated with modern tech they send a telegraph which takes another day or so to get to the secretary, then the secretary's large hips slows her down and prevents her from processing it. When she finally does, the Student is notified, student attempts to call CFI via house phone (lot of CFI's here have no mobile, despite the fact its a professional aerospace school) CFI doesnt pick up either hes having an affair with another incompetant female flight instructor who got hired because she slept with the whole hiring board , hes at a bar, and or hes working 4 other jobs to be able to purchase his ramen. CFI is finally contacted arrangments are made 2-4 days from when he is contacted because the awesome UND scheduling assigned him 20 or so students + 4 stages. By the time you go out and fly the beautiful mdiwest Weather bites you by some gay a$$ frotn moving in brining in 200 foot cielings, hail, freezing temps, icing, thnderstorms, and what not (midn you its probably summer). and that system does not move for 5 days. so sooner than you know it your behind templete, and have are not current at flying. Then you end up getting a stage pilot who asks "How many revolutions per minute/second does the gyroscopic instrument of rigidity in space spin?, be exact to the thousandths." so that is how you get delayed at UND ON A NORMAL BASIS.
Bitter at all are we?!?
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I can help out, what lessons do you need done?
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Bitter at all are we?!?


Me im probably the least bitter person you'll ever meet im very optomistic when it comes to approching things and tasks (maybe a little too much)
but when youve been waiting and working for 6 months on your private and our in your final stage but wait 3-5 days at atime to sched soemthing with your stage pilot and new CFI....on top o fthat UND ddnt let you fly due to low SAT scores the first sem, on top of that other negative issues. Its not even bitter, most of it is factual and from experience the only bad part I put is above is the farm part.
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yes UND puts them in a straw hat, mixes them waits about 1-6 days to go tend to the farms and let the paper and hat settle (explains why everything takes so long here), milk the cow, cook the pig, then they go back in draw the names out of the hat, then since UND is so updated with modern tech they send a telegraph which takes another day or so to get to the secretary, then the secretary's large hips slows her down and prevents her from processing it. When she finally does, the Student is notified, student attempts to call CFI via house phone (lot of CFI's here have no mobile, despite the fact its a professional aerospace school) CFI doesnt pick up either hes having an affair with another incompetant female flight instructor who got hired because she slept with the whole hiring board , hes at a bar, and or hes working 4 other jobs to be able to purchase his ramen. CFI is finally contacted arrangments are made 2-4 days from when he is contacted because the awesome UND scheduling assigned him 20 or so students + 4 stages. By the time you go out and fly the beautiful mdiwest Weather bites you by some gay a$$ frotn moving in brining in 200 foot cielings, hail, freezing temps, icing, thnderstorms, and what not (midn you its probably summer). and that system does not move for 5 days. so sooner than you know it your behind templete, and have are not current at flying. Then you end up getting a stage pilot who asks "How many revolutions per minute/second does the gyroscopic instrument of rigidity in space spin?, be exact to the thousandths." so that is how you get delayed at UND ON A NORMAL BASIS.
Wow, seriously, I laughed so hard reading this! whether one agrees or not, it's still f-cking hilarious!!!
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Me im probably the least bitter person you'll ever mee,t im veyr optomistic when it comes to approching things and tasks (maybe a little too much) but when it all goes down I do only become a BIT bitter, but most I speak of up there is truth from experience except the farm parts.
haha, I just saw it as a 16 line rant expressing your complete dissatisfaction with the UND aviation program. I'm not saying that UND is perfect, but let's show a little bit more pride. There are a lot of things that you can do yourself to ensure completing your flight course on time (some things you cannot help). If you're experience has been less than par then that's too bad I guess. It's all what you put into it man.
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All what I put into it?! lol To be honest I put a lot of hardwork into this, I know im not a natural born chuck yeagar, im not the generic "smart asian" I work hard with my academics, clubs, flying and just living alone 1500 miles from home. I worked my butt off only to get a 3.2 GPA (descending) and 42 credits as a frosh. I was ahead of templete the first MONTH, then my CFI's wife left him so he spent 4-6 days ina canda trying to get/talk with her, I was on my lesson 13 so I couldnt get another CFI to sign me off for my stage 14, and that held me back, I diddnt fdly for a while I unsated wx bit me over and over, my stage guy was also busy with family issues etc....and oine thign led to another why im still here finishign the secodn aprt of my checride oral.

I do have/had school pride I was happy to go here initially, I tell my friends home how it is here and am/WAS proud of it, even people I talk to on my flights over to MSP and GFK. I WAS proud to be a Sioux, WAS? (our names going to be a flicker##### now), and yeh i feel bad it diddnt work out as I planed here. anyway move on
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All what I put into it?! lol To be honest I put a lot of hardwork into this, I know im not a natural born chuck yeagar, im not the generic "smart asian" I work hard with my academics, clubs, flying and just living alone 1500 miles from home. I worked my butt off only to get a 3.2 GPA (descending) and 42 credits as a frosh. I was ahead of templete the first MONTH, then my CFI's wife left him so he spent 4-6 days ina canda trying to get/talk with her, I was on my lesson 13 so I couldnt get another CFI to sign me off for my stage 14, and that held me back, I diddnt fdly for a while I unsated wx bit me over and over, my stage guy was also busy with family issues etc....and oine thign led to another why im still here finishign the secodn aprt of my checride oral.

I do have/had school pride I was happy to go here initially, I tell my friends home how it is here and am/WAS proud of it, even people I talk to on my flights over to MSP and GFK. I WAS proud to be a Sioux, WAS? (our names going to be a flicker##### now), and yeh i feel bad it diddnt work out as I planed here. anyway move on
Well then, that sucks that you were dealt a bad hand. I remember that 102 was a tough course to finish on time. Best of luck to ya with finishin up your flyin
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yes UND puts them in a straw hat, mixes them waits about 1-6 days to go tend to the farms and let the paper and hat settle (explains why everything takes so long here), milk the cow, cook the pig, then they go back in draw the names out of the hat, then since UND is so updated with modern tech they send a telegraph which takes another day or so to get to the secretary, then the secretary's large hips slows her down and prevents her from processing it. When she finally does, the Student is notified, student attempts to call CFI via house phone (lot of CFI's here have no mobile, despite the fact its a professional aerospace school) CFI doesnt pick up either hes having an affair with another incompetant female flight instructor who got hired because she slept with the whole hiring board , hes at a bar, and or hes working 4 other jobs to be able to purchase his ramen. CFI is finally contacted arrangments are made 2-4 days from when he is contacted because the awesome UND scheduling assigned him 20 or so students + 4 stages. By the time you go out and fly the beautiful mdiwest Weather bites you by some gay a$$ frotn moving in brining in 200 foot cielings, hail, freezing temps, icing, thnderstorms, and what not (midn you its probably summer). and that system does not move for 5 days. so sooner than you know it your behind templete, and have are not current at flying. Then you end up getting a stage pilot who asks "How many revolutions per minute/second does the gyroscopic instrument of rigidity in space spin?, be exact to the thousandths." so that is how you get delayed at UND ON A NORMAL BASIS.
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yes UND puts them in a straw hat, mixes them waits about 1-6 days to go tend to the farms and let the paper and hat settle (explains why everything takes so long here), milk the cow, cook the pig, then they go back in draw the names out of the hat, then since UND is so updated with modern tech they send a telegraph which takes another day or so to get to the secretary, then the secretary's large hips slows her down and prevents her from processing it. When she finally does, the Student is notified, student attempts to call CFI via house phone (lot of CFI's here have no mobile, despite the fact its a professional aerospace school) CFI doesnt pick up either hes having an affair with another incompetant female flight instructor who got hired because she slept with the whole hiring board , hes at a bar, and or hes working 4 other jobs to be able to purchase his ramen. CFI is finally contacted arrangments are made 2-4 days from when he is contacted because the awesome UND scheduling assigned him 20 or so students + 4 stages. By the time you go out and fly the beautiful mdiwest Weather bites you by some gay a$$ frotn moving in brining in 200 foot cielings, hail, freezing temps, icing, thnderstorms, and what not (midn you its probably summer). and that system does not move for 5 days. so sooner than you know it your behind templete, and have are not current at flying. Then you end up getting a stage pilot who asks "How many revolutions per minute/second does the gyroscopic instrument of rigidity in space spin?, be exact to the thousandths." so that is how you get delayed at UND ON A NORMAL BASIS.
CHRIS, THAT POST IS HILARIOUS, YOUR SIGNATURE AND AVATAR ARE ####ING HILARIOUS TOO. Wow!!
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CHRIS, THAT POST IS HILARIOUS, YOUR SIGNATURE AND AVATAR ARE ####ING HILARIOUS TOO. Wow!!
Yeah the post was just hilarious, not saying I agree or disagree with anything...but just ####ing hilarious!!!
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yes UND puts them in a straw hat, mixes them waits about 1-6 days to go tend to the farms and let the paper and hat settle (explains why everything takes so long here), milk the cow, cook the pig, then they go back in draw the names out of the hat, then since UND is so updated with modern tech they send a telegraph which takes another day or so to get to the secretary, then the secretary's large hips slows her down and prevents her from processing it. When she finally does, the Student is notified, student attempts to call CFI via house phone (lot of CFI's here have no mobile, despite the fact its a professional aerospace school) CFI doesnt pick up either hes having an affair with another incompetant female flight instructor who got hired because she slept with the whole hiring board , hes at a bar, and or hes working 4 other jobs to be able to purchase his ramen. CFI is finally contacted arrangments are made 2-4 days from when he is contacted because the awesome UND scheduling assigned him 20 or so students + 4 stages. By the time you go out and fly the beautiful mdiwest Weather bites you by some gay a$$ frotn moving in brining in 200 foot cielings, hail, freezing temps, icing, thnderstorms, and what not (midn you its probably summer). and that system does not move for 5 days. so sooner than you know it your behind templete, and have are not current at flying. Then you end up getting a stage pilot who asks "How many revolutions per minute/second does the gyroscopic instrument of rigidity in space spin?, be exact to the thousandths." so that is how you get delayed at UND ON A NORMAL BASIS.
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