Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go?

JaceTheAce · May 24th, 2006, 20:13

Must be 250 nm total, one leg consisting of 100 nm between airports, and must include at least 1 landing at an airport more than 50 nm from original departure point. Also requires 3 different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems.

Top priority: Barely meet the requirements so I can save some cash.

Where would you recommend me going?

CaptainChris87 · May 24th, 2006, 20:20

Sky harbor? or you can do the iron triangle over and over and do the Instrument approaches at GFK or RDR I guess haha

JaceTheAce · May 24th, 2006, 22:36

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Originally Posted by CaptainChris87

Sky harbor? or you can do the iron triangle over and over and do the Instrument approaches at GFK or RDR I guess haha

NO Sky Harbor. The objective is to save some money.

JaceTheAce · May 24th, 2006, 23:39

Come on... anyone else have any suggestions???

airplanerik · May 24th, 2006, 23:41

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Top priority: Barely meet the requirements so I can save some cash.

Very good idea! I had the same attitude when I did my 50. I did KGFK-KFFM-KBJI-KGFK. I believe it was close to the the minimums for the lesson. Kind of a boring route...but if you are under the hood, who cares? When I did that route I got 3.0 actual -- one of my favorite XC's to this date!

On the topic of XC's, does anybody know what the probability is I could get approval for a XC to an airport North of Chicago for and overnight? AND, who would be the best one to talk to? Manager on duty, Dick Schultz, or Leo??

CRJDriver · May 24th, 2006, 23:55

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Originally Posted by airplanerik

On the topic of XC's, does anybody know what the probability is I could get approval for a XC to an airport North of Chicago for and overnight? AND, who would be the best one to talk to? Manager on duty, Dick Schultz, or Leo??

You need to talk to the manager on duty for airport approval, usually as long as the airport has services it should be good. You need to talk to Leo or full-time dispatcher for overnight (if they will let you).

airplanerik · May 25th, 2006, 00:12

The thing is, the manager on duty always changes. I would like to get it approved a little before the "day of" so I don't plan everything out for nothing if it gets turned down. If I got it approved with a manager on duty tomorrow, it wouldn't be approved by the manager on duty the day I would leave. So I thought maybe if I talked to a "higher up" person it would stay approved. I don't know...

Also, I think this weekend would be my best shot for an overnight, since it is a three day weekend -- and judging by past trends the GFK is DEAD on the weekends during the summer. They hardly even bring any of the Warriors out!

UAL747400 · May 25th, 2006, 01:58

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Must be 250 nm total, one leg consisting of 100 nm between airports, and must include at least 1 landing at an airport more than 50 nm from original departure point. Also requires 3 different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems.

Top priority: Barely meet the requirements so I can save some cash.

Where would you recommend me going?

I dont know the milage, but I did GFK-PKD-FFM-GFK. It was 3.9 hours durning a snow storm(under -20C), so it was actually fun as hell. Actual is far more interesting to me than using the hood for somereason. Perhapse it's because I know its nice out and I cant look outside when under the hood, which makes me mad.

stuckingfk · May 25th, 2006, 03:38

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Originally Posted by airplanerik

The thing is, the manager on duty always changes. I would like to get it approved a little before the "day of" so I don't plan everything out for nothing if it gets turned down. If I got it approved with a manager on duty tomorrow, it wouldn't be approved by the manager on duty the day I would leave. So I thought maybe if I talked to a "higher up" person it would stay approved. I don't know...

Also, I think this weekend would be my best shot for an overnight, since it is a three day weekend -- and judging by past trends the GFK is DEAD on the weekends during the summer. They hardly even bring any of the Warriors out!

I'm wondering why one would approve something, and one wouldn't. It has to do with services available (S1*almost positive* in the AFD). So the guidelines are pretty simple for the MOD, it either has them or it doesn't. Just have the MOD sign the solo cross country sheet (blue) and you're good to go.

Bignellyxx · May 25th, 2006, 11:04

If you want to do something fun you definitely have to make one of your stops in Winnipeg. If your instructor doesn't have a radio license find someone who does. I have a friend who did GFK-ROX-YWG-GFK and had a blast.

Screaming_Emu · May 25th, 2006, 14:39

I scooted down to MSP on that one (and another one combined). Was a damn good experience. Went in when it wasn't too busy, but when we left it was a freakin zoo. Loads of fun actually flying into civilization, and goin in IFR to class B wasn't hard at all.

May 24th, 2006, 20:13	#1
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,419	Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go? Must be 250 nm total, one leg consisting of 100 nm between airports, and must include at least 1 landing at an airport more than 50 nm from original departure point. Also requires 3 different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems. Top priority: Barely meet the requirements so I can save some cash. Where would you recommend me going? __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

May 24th, 2006, 20:20	#2
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Location: O.C. Posts: 1,779	Re: Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go? Sky harbor? or you can do the iron triangle over and over and do the Instrument approaches at GFK or RDR I guess haha __________________ -CP/MEL-IR;AGI -Former Airline Intern,Sightseeing tours pilot -A.A.:Trasnfer Studies. Cal-State Fullerton: Finance/Entrepreneurship -Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity.-Pledge/Sigma President

May 24th, 2006, 23:39	#4
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,419	Re: Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go? Come on... anyone else have any suggestions??? __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

May 25th, 2006, 00:12	#7
airplanerik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 626	Re: Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go? The thing is, the manager on duty always changes. I would like to get it approved a little before the "day of" so I don't plan everything out for nothing if it gets turned down. If I got it approved with a manager on duty tomorrow, it wouldn't be approved by the manager on duty the day I would leave. So I thought maybe if I talked to a "higher up" person it would stay approved. I don't know... Also, I think this weekend would be my best shot for an overnight, since it is a three day weekend -- and judging by past trends the GFK is DEAD on the weekends during the summer. They hardly even bring any of the Warriors out! __________________ CP-AMEL IA CFI, CFII

May 25th, 2006, 11:04	#10
Bignellyxx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 152	Re: Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go? If you want to do something fun you definitely have to make one of your stops in Winnipeg. If your instructor doesn't have a radio license find someone who does. I have a friend who did GFK-ROX-YWG-GFK and had a blast.

May 25th, 2006, 14:39	#11
Screaming_Emu Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,306	Re: Lesson 50 IFR Cross Country - Where should I go? I scooted down to MSP on that one (and another one combined). Was a damn good experience. Went in when it wasn't too busy, but when we left it was a freakin zoo. Loads of fun actually flying into civilization, and goin in IFR to class B wasn't hard at all. __________________ Commercial Pilot - ASEL, AMEL, Instrument CFI/II 880TT CRJ-700 FO at Southernjets Connection Former flight instructor out of KBWI and W29 Loves Dutch chicks "jtrain609: I wish I had a pair"

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