Barrel Rolls in the Warrior

JaceTheAce · September 28th, 2005, 22:30

Three 221 students on their solo cross-countries got caught doing barrel rolls in the Warrior today. All three came back at the same time and had broken attitude indicators. Their certificates may be revoked or suspended since they violated an FAR and limitations of the aircraft.

I heard this from an "unnamed" credible source (won't say who told me, since it's a possibility that that person is not supposed to reveal this information).

Did anyone else hear of this? I can't believe some idiots would actually do this.

NDviaEP · September 28th, 2005, 22:37

Wow... dumbasses

UND_Flyer · September 28th, 2005, 22:40

Too bad I wasn't at work when it happened. Anyway, those guy's are ****ing iditots!!!

airplanerik · September 28th, 2005, 22:54

O.M.G. How stupid can you get?

stuckingfk · September 28th, 2005, 23:27

I don't believe it. Not sure when they came back but I just got back from the airport and didn't hear a thing.

First, I wouldn't call it a barell roll because I know they don't know how to do them correctly. Second, AI's don't break after doing a barell roll. It takes many of these to wear it to the point of failure. So the chance of all three of these breaking is unrealistic. These instruments tumble all the time when doing unusual attitudes and they don't break.

JaceTheAce · September 29th, 2005, 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by lruppert

I don't believe it. Not sure when they came back but I just got back from the airport and didn't hear a thing.

First, I wouldn't call it a barell roll because I know they don't know how to do them correctly. Second, AI's don't break after doing a barell roll. It takes many of these to wear it to the point of failure. So the chance of all three of these breaking is unrealistic. These instruments tumble all the time when doing unusual attitudes and they don't break.

I don't know if all three of them broke. Maybe just one was "stuck"...and barrel roll... I doubt a Warrior can even do one properly - it'd probably lose a lot of altitude upon reaching an inverted attitude. I'm not sure though...haven't done it myself.

MikeD · September 29th, 2005, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by lruppert

I don't believe it. Not sure when they came back but I just got back from the airport and didn't hear a thing.

First, I wouldn't call it a barell roll because I know they don't know how to do them correctly. Second, AI's don't break after doing a barell roll. It takes many of these to wear it to the point of failure. So the chance of all three of these breaking is unrealistic. These instruments tumble all the time when doing unusual attitudes and they don't break.

Agree.....I think there's more to it than we're seeing here, whether the story has any truth or not.

Coming from someone with a good amount of acro experience, something doesn't hold water here....

NDviaEP · September 29th, 2005, 10:10

Isn't it true that a student did it a couple years back too?

Foxcow · September 29th, 2005, 11:04

There was an instructor that got fired for doing clearing rolls in an Arrow. The student wasn't having any of that.

stuckingfk · September 29th, 2005, 14:05

The instructor was doing snap rolls and yes, he was fired.

Jace, the warrior (or most other small planes) will do a roll. It just takes a long time and looks like crap.

About rolling, anyone can figure how to do a roll but barell rolls are different. They take a lot of practice to accomplish correctly so that's why I said they didn't do barell rolls. I'm sure they just rolled it if they did at all.

Nonetheless, I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if this happened.

roundout · September 29th, 2005, 18:37

wow. please keep us updated if more emerges about this stunt.

JaceTheAce · September 29th, 2005, 21:12

Oops, I guess I wasn't supposed to say anything after talking to the person again. I will keep you guys informed if I know of any information that is "public".

ASpilot2be · September 30th, 2005, 03:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Oops, I guess I wasn't supposed to say anything after talking to the person again. I will keep you guys informed if I know of any information that is "public".

What did you say?

September 28th, 2005, 22:30	#1
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Most of the time in the air Posts: 7,329	Barrel Rolls in the Warrior Three 221 students on their solo cross-countries got caught doing barrel rolls in the Warrior today. All three came back at the same time and had broken attitude indicators. Their certificates may be revoked or suspended since they violated an FAR and limitations of the aircraft. I heard this from an "unnamed" credible source (won't say who told me, since it's a possibility that that person is not supposed to reveal this information). Did anyone else hear of this? I can't believe some idiots would actually do this. __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

September 28th, 2005, 22:40	#3
UND_Flyer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CVG Posts: 1,015	Too bad I wasn't at work when it happened. Anyway, those guy's are ***ing iditots!!! __________________ "A mile of highway will take you a mile. A mile of runway will take you anywhere!"*

September 28th, 2005, 22:54	#4
airplanerik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 626	O.M.G. How stupid can you get? __________________ CP-AMEL IA CFI, CFII

September 29th, 2005, 11:04	#9
Foxcow Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,050	There was an instructor that got fired for doing clearing rolls in an Arrow. The student wasn't having any of that. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

September 29th, 2005, 18:37	#11
roundout Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kads Posts: 805	wow. please keep us updated if more emerges about this stunt. __________________ http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm this reference tool contains examples of the proper spellings and usages of the following words: your, you're, there, their, they're, than, then

September 28th, 2005, 22:37	#2
NDviaEP Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: KGFK, KFCM (home) Posts: 202	Wow... dumbasses

September 28th, 2005, 23:27	#5
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,576	I don't believe it. Not sure when they came back but I just got back from the airport and didn't hear a thing. First, I wouldn't call it a barell roll because I know they don't know how to do them correctly. Second, AI's don't break after doing a barell roll. It takes many of these to wear it to the point of failure. So the chance of all three of these breaking is unrealistic. These instruments tumble all the time when doing unusual attitudes and they don't break.

September 29th, 2005, 10:10	#8
NDviaEP Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: KGFK, KFCM (home) Posts: 202	Isn't it true that a student did it a couple years back too?

September 29th, 2005, 14:05	#10
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,576	The instructor was doing snap rolls and yes, he was fired. Jace, the warrior (or most other small planes) will do a roll. It just takes a long time and looks like crap. About rolling, anyone can figure how to do a roll but barell rolls are different. They take a lot of practice to accomplish correctly so that's why I said they didn't do barell rolls. I'm sure they just rolled it if they did at all. Nonetheless, I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if this happened.

September 29th, 2005, 21:12	#12
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Most of the time in the air Posts: 7,329	Oops, I guess I wasn't supposed to say anything after talking to the person again. I will keep you guys informed if I know of any information that is "public". __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

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