Meteorology Classes

[Brutusjj]

I was looking at the classes that must be taken and I saw AtSc 110 which is meteorology and then they have AtSc 231 which is Aviation Meteorology what's the difference between the two. Plus I remember one of you UNDer's was complaining about AtSc110 in the forum that got deleted about the crash with a cirrus plane and I would like to know what's the problem with that class? Going to visit one more school and look at my options and then decide, but I'm leaning more and more to UND even though it is a trip from Ohio.

[UND_Flyer]

Brutusjj,

Atsc110 is an introduction course to Meteorology, and mostly covers the elements of the atmosphere with emphasis on those processes that affect the global atmospheric circulation. Atsc213 is Aviation Meteorology I and mainly focuses on the study of weather hazards, meteorological flight planning, aviation weather equipment and human factors in weather flying safety.

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I would like to know what's the problem with that class? Going to visit one more school and look at my options and then decide, but I'm leaning more and more to UND even though it is a trip from Ohio.

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No real problem with the class, just difficult. If you put the time into it and don't blow it off you should have no problem with it. I think most people end up failing it because it's so boring and they just quit going to class.

As far as the difference between 110 and 231 und flyr pretty much summed it up.

The drive from Ohio isn't to bad. I've done it five times now, and as screwed up as it sounds, it's starting grow on me.

[CAFFEINE]

I'm in ATSC 231 now. Most of what we've covered so far has been aviation weather products. Here is the list of topics from the syllabus in case you're interested:

AtSc 231 – Aviation Meteorology I:

Introduction
Key Weather Elements
Aviation Weather Systems
Weather Forecasting
METARs
Automated Weather Observations
Inflight Advisories
PIREPs
Surface Chart
Weather Depiction
Weather Radar
RAREPs, Radar Summary Chart
Stability
Constant Pressure Charts
Satellite Images
Area Forecasts
TWEBs
Significant Weather Progs
TAFs
Winds Aloft
Turbulence
Mountain Flying
Icing
Ice Protection Systems
Ground Deicing Procedures
Thunderstorm Structure
Hazards
Flight Safety
Microbursts
Non-convective wind shear
IFR
Airborne Weather Radar
Aviation Weather Equipment
Review

[Brutusjj]

thanks everyone for the answers, really appreciate it

[roundout]

if any of you ever needs a 3 credit course and it's being offered (which is rare), i HIGHLY recommend taking fred remer's aviation met II (atsc 33x) class. that was one of the best classes i've taken at UND. he doesn't offer it very often, unfortunately.

another recommendation - if you have a choice between remer and poellet (or anyone else), take remer.

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another recommendation - if you have a choice between remer and poellet (or anyone else), take remer.

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I agree, Remer is a good guy and makes what could be an extremely boring class into one that is fairly entertaining.

[CAFFEINE]

As I sit in Poellet's ATSC 231 class....

[JaceTheAce]

I'm taking Borho for Meterology 110 ...unfortunately he's the only one that teaches it (I think for this semester) and he's a lot more difficult than that old guy that retired. Borho told us that when he came in to replace that old guy, he had to "clean house" and make all the tests a lot more difficult. I have to take Exam #1 at 7pm tonight. I don't think I'll do very good. My advice to you for this class is go to the lectures and read up on the chapter before and after the material is covered in the lectures.

[Screaming_Emu]

Remer is the man, he's the whole reason I took Avit Meteorology II. It takes a good teacher to make meteorology entertaining.

[CAFFEINE]

Yeah, I had Borho the first semester he taught ATSC 110 (fall 2003) and his exams kicked our butts. I think the average on the first exam was a D. I have friends that had to retake the class and they said the second semester's exams were a little easier. Do really well in the lab, it will really help your grade as it is (or at least was) worth 25% of your grade.

[Icelandair]

is Hurley still a teacher there teaching AtSc 110? He was the best, he loved that hickory stick.

[Screaming_Emu]

No, he retired last year, or mabye the year before that. I must say...that class might have been the most bored I've ever been in my life ;-)