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Old February 12th, 2009, 04:23   #26
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Yeah it's kind of like how everyone becomes a total tool during the SAMA conference. Bunch of DB's dress up in their cheesy similar suits trying to suck up to some HR person or intern. Especially when regionals were hiring with a pulse in spring 2007. ooh i get to fly an RJ with my 300/25 and my 50 dual given yaay.
not sure what your background is, but i would rather work at a regional than be a CFI any day. if it takes me having to dress up in my "cheesy suit" i guess call me a DB.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 13:45   #27
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ooh i get to fly an RJ with my 300/25 and my 50 dual given yaay.
I assume you work for a regional. How many hrs did you have when you got hired? I dont think there are too many regionals hiring with 300/25 and 50 dual given. Those days may be over. If the SAMA career fairs are really the only opporunity to network into the industry, why not go dressed up in your best to impress? And if you were offered to fly a jet, would you turn it down for a prop? Just asking.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 13:50   #28
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I'm no pilot nor do I know much about the hiring industry, but these days we must remind ourselves that it's nice to have a pay check every two weeks and doing something we love. There's alot of people out there sitting in the unemployment office right now that wishes they could say that. My two cents.....
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Old February 12th, 2009, 13:55   #29
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not sure what your background is, but i would rather work at a regional than be a CFI any day. if it takes me having to dress up in my "cheesy suit" i guess call me a DB.
I am gonna have to agree with you completely.
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See this is why all of you who are Instructors here at UND need to read the flight operations meeting minutes. We are selling the mustang, asap, to buy another king air. The charters that have been going prefer the king air and air china would like another one to be on the ramp.
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I assume you work for a regional. How many hrs did you have when you got hired? I dont think there are too many regionals hiring with 300/25 and 50 dual given. Those days may be over. If the SAMA career fairs are really the only opporunity to network into the industry, why not go dressed up in your best to impress? And if you were offered to fly a jet, would you turn it down for a prop? Just asking.

Jet or prop, who cares. I would gladly step down (according to you) to a prop (TBM, PC12, Comanche, Seneca, etc) for a boost in QOL and pay.


There were a lot of really low time guys that got hired with that kind of time. I flew with a lot of them. There was one individual that had 275 hours total after completing IOE!
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Jet or prop, who cares. I would gladly step down (according to you) to a prop (TBM, PC12, Comanche, Seneca, etc) for a boost in QOL and pay.


There were a lot of really low time guys that got hired with that kind of time. I flew with a lot of them. There was one individual that had 275 hours total after completing IOE!
Uhhhh where did I say that it was a step down? I was asking a question. I know there were a lot of guys hired with that time, I was saying that those days seem to be over, at least for the time being. Go back and read what I wrote.
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There were a lot of really low time guys that got hired with that kind of time. I flew with a lot of them. There was one individual that had 275 hours total after completing IOE!
I had 270.2 hours after IOE on the Dash 8... it was definitely a big challenge for me. Those days of hiring with a wet ticket are over.
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well it looks like i turned this into a nice pissing match. The thing i think is funny about the SAMA conference is the people that go to represent each company. I remember some airline that was represented with cocky line pilots and had hoards of eager students wearing black suits and white shirts surrounding the booth. I'm assuming it was Horizon because everyone at UND seemed to have a hard-on for Horizon. Wish i had a picture. That is how i sum up the conference. I know it is a nice conference with great speakers.
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Uhhhh where did I say that it was a step down? I was asking a question. I know there were a lot of guys hired with that time, I was saying that those days seem to be over, at least for the time being. Go back and read what I wrote.
I apologize. I confused your post with another in this thread. My response was not intended to harp or be preachy. Again, I apologize.
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I had 270.2 hours after IOE on the Dash 8... it was definitely a big challenge for me. Those days of hiring with a wet ticket are over.

No doubt. There were a lot of really low time guys that went to Pinnacle as well.
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Jet or prop, who cares. I would gladly step down (according to you) to a prop (TBM, PC12, Comanche, Seneca, etc) for a boost in QOL and pay.


There were a lot of really low time guys that got hired with that kind of time. I flew with a lot of them. There was one individual that had 275 hours total after completing IOE!
Problem with props, pistons at least, is that you can only make so much money, no matter how good you are and how much you bust your ass for a company. There is the rare owner that might pay $50k to fly and manage a 421 or 414 but it's uncommon.

TBM/PC-12/KA/Conquest is where it's at. Turbine equipment = higher pay and easier to fly. Unfortunately, I think almost every pilot's dream is to fly one of those aircraft for $80k, no RONs, and only weekdays. That makes it tough to find such a job. The only thing we can do is keep looking.
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well it looks like i turned this into a nice pissing match. The thing i think is funny about the SAMA conference is the people that go to represent each company. I remember some airline that was represented with cocky line pilots and had hoards of eager students wearing black suits and white shirts surrounding the booth. I'm assuming it was Horizon because everyone at UND seemed to have a hard-on for Horizon. Wish i had a picture. That is how i sum up the conference. I know it is a nice conference with great speakers.
Well, I guess I'm going to be one of those ######bags wearing a suit and traveling to GFK for this years career fair, because I got furloughed and have no job! The only chance to get an interview these days is to go to a career fair. I think you will see a few furloughed guys come to the cnference this year.
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Well, I guess I'm going to be one of those ######bags wearing a suit and traveling to GFK for this years career fair, because I got furloughed and have no job! The only chance to get an interview these days is to go to a career fair. I think you will see a few furloughed guys come to the cnference this year.
Nope. You won't be wide eyed ready to jump on the first jet you get (not like this will be the same as 2 years ago). You will be more skeptical than many and your resume most likely won't blend in like the suits on the rest. Sorry to hit the wrong chord i wasn't making attacks. I was pointing out general observations and shouldn't have used the word D-bag

The point i really wanted to get out was how funny some of the company representatives were a few years ago. Hoards or students scratching away to get the same job they have and they get a nice ego boost. The funny part is some of the reps were in the same position a few years prior.
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