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TSA KICT Shenanigans...

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Stomp16, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. Stomp16 Sky Mowing & Relocation Connoisseur

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    Stomp16, Apr 30, 2012
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  2. Minuteman (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

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    limey 'journalism' is the worst
    Minuteman, Apr 30, 2012
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  3. ocdflyboy Well-Known Member

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    it's unfortunate that some IDIOTS are given authority.
    ocdflyboy, Apr 30, 2012
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  4. HerrGruyere Well-Known Member

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    That poor girl. She should know not to hug her grandma in a way that looks like you're exchanging a weapon!
    HerrGruyere, Apr 30, 2012
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  5. middies10 Well-Known Member

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    Oh what a uniform and badge will do to a person.
    middies10, Apr 30, 2012
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  6. auw2fly Goldmember

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    Guilty until proven innocent...
    auw2fly, Apr 30, 2012
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  7. dustoff17 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently none of you have been to Wichita. Living there, what are you going to do for fun if you can't harrass a four year old? This is government authorized public harassment without a doubt.

    However, the Mother added to her daughter's trauma here. Mom could have resolved this without the little girl getting so upset. Some people shouldn't have kids.......
    dustoff17, Apr 30, 2012
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  8. MQAAord Scheherazade

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    I think the job of screener is a lot like the job of flight attendant. It's a high customer-contact position, where you have to be able to balance customer service with safety & security. It's quite possible to perform all necessary functions of the job while being nice to people.
    MQAAord, Apr 30, 2012
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  9. MikeD Administrator

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    Shack. This.
    MikeD, Apr 30, 2012
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  10. MQAAord Scheherazade

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    Sadly, a lot of screeners (and a lot of F/As too for that matter) haven't quite mastered that balance that I speak of...

    Many have, and they're the ones that DON'T make the news. But there are a lot that haven't.
    MQAAord, Apr 30, 2012
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  11. Matt13C Well-Known Member

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    Wait, what? How?

    If some stranger started yelling at my daughter, scared her and she wanted my wife and the same person was keeping them apart, she would freak out. Do you have kids? Do you understand the bond a child has with their parents and the desire to be with them with scared? It was a traumatic event for both the mother and the daughter.
    Matt13C, Apr 30, 2012
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  12. exneophyte Well-Known Member

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    I hate the TSA as much as the next guy, but I think parents/grandparents/guardians have a certain responsibility to prepare their kids for a trip. I remember before every trip we took with my parents, my dad briefed us on what they might ask("Did you pack your bags yourself?"), how to act when we were in line for the metal detectors and what not to say. I remember a particular emphasis on the word bomb.

    Sure things are more intense now, but I think explaining things to a child to prepare them could save children a lot of trauma.
    exneophyte, Apr 30, 2012
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  13. MQAAord Scheherazade

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    Oh man, before we flew to Florida with the kids last August, we had SEVERAL conversations with the kids about what to expect and what was expected of them going through security! We talked about taking off their shoes, putting their backpacks on the belt, walking through the "arch" (metal detector), what to do after they walked through, etc. Not even just one conversation, but several, on different days, so that the message stuck and they heard it more than once!

    On travel day, they were not scared, not surprised, and handled the situation like troopers. Little B (age 6 at the time) even saw someone standing with their arms up in the backscatter machine, and when he got in the metal detector he stopped and put his hands up! lol! We had to tell him to keep walking, that he didn't have to do that... but it showed he was paying attention to what was going on around him at least!
    MQAAord, Apr 30, 2012
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    ASpilot2be and pullup like this.

  14. exneophyte Well-Known Member

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    You are a good parent. I see too many out of control kids running around the airport acting out like it's a playground.

    In your case the kids knew what was expected of them and they acted appropriately. And if they didn't act properly and the TSA gave them extra screening because of it, then you simply remind them afterwards of the consequences of acting out in a TSA line. Just like you explain after a timeout why they were on time out.
    exneophyte, Apr 30, 2012
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  15. pullup Homewrecker

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    I teach my kids Arabic sayings as well as how to play a game called 'blow each other up', it isn't warmly received.
    pullup, Apr 30, 2012
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  16. MQAAord Scheherazade

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    I knew their chances of acting out were significantly less if they knew beforehand what was going to be happening and what was expected of them. It was also made quite clear to them that if they were rotten in the airport, we weren't going to be going ANYWHERE on the plane! :) We'd turn right around, collect our bags and go home. They were also briefed on expected behavior on the planes! Sitting still, wearing their seat belts, putting their bags away, turning off their Nintendo DS when told to, etc. And again, since they knew of the expected behavior, it was not a surprised when they were told to fasten their seat belt and put their DS away, and they did with no issues.

    I think that making kids aware of what's going to be happening is a HUGE part of making them feel more comfortable, which makes them calmer, and MUCH less likely to have a tantrum in the first place.


    *disclaimer- My kids were 6 and 8 for this trip! They were a lot older than a typical tantrum throwing 3 year old.. I purposefully DID NOT FLY with them when they were toddlers, as I didn't want to deal with toddler behavior on a plane.
    MQAAord, Apr 30, 2012
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  17. dustoff17 Well-Known Member

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    That's my point exactly. There isn't a TSA idiot on the planet that could keep me from my crying daughter. And, in suit, I'm sure that TSA would assume that the "gun" was passed to me. I would tell my daughter what was going to happen. I would tell the TSA turd to search me first, all the time in full view of my daughter and explain to her that it didn't hurt, that it was kind if funny, etc. THEN the child would be calm, TSA could go on violating people's bodies, and the I would get on my plane.......

    I did the same with mine before going to Denver last Christmas, my 6 year old son actually giggled when he was pat searched!! My kids were 3,6,and 8 at the time....had no problems with them in security OR on the plane.
    dustoff17, Apr 30, 2012
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  18. Krystal Dispatch Betty

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    Maybe Im a loose cannon but if a TSA agen got in MY 4 year olds face like that, Id proably be in prison right now.
    Krystal, Apr 30, 2012
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  19. MikeD Administrator

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    That wouldn't do much good for your 4 year old....except for visiting time.
    MikeD, Apr 30, 2012
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  20. Matt13C Well-Known Member

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    Ah, ok I thought you were going the other way. Yes, I agree with you.

    Only so much you can do with a roughly 2 year old. Only so much registers. Thankfully these scenarios are very rare, they just get the press. Most of the TSA are like the rest of us, they want to do their job and go home. It still sucks we need to prep our children to basically be violated to fly, what can and can't be said, how you can and can't act. It is supposed to be fun and really should take no more talking to than going out to dinner, which doesnt take days of prep to be prepared.
    Matt13C, Apr 30, 2012
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