1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Dear Visitor, registration is absolutely FREE!

    You can also start your membership quickly by using the "Login with Facebook" for fast registration!

    Get access to our live chat, members-only jobs section and more, today!
  3. Tune in AGAIN and watch Mike Lewis (Moderator) on Jeopardy! $35,000 first day winnings! Friday, May 24th!

Sucky Eagle news update for the week

Discussion in 'Airline Pilots' started by RPM, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. Autothrust Blue Conveying multiple attitudes

    Member Since:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Message Count:
    7,642
    Likes Received:
    1,306
    The way I understand it, they've made their opening proposal and ALPA and AMR are "negotiating." If they can't reach an agreement amiable to both parties, then you'll get an 1113(c) motion.
  2. Firebird2XC Who Dares, Wins.

    Member Since:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Message Count:
    9,056
    Likes Received:
    137
    Pretty much a gun to our heads. I don't deal with bullies. Text me sometime about how I dealt with a few lately.
  3. ClearedToThe Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Message Count:
    287
    Likes Received:
    32
    Classy. I'll stick to the facts and keep the conversation out of the pre-school sandbox though.

    You can talk about how profitable Eagle is, but the fact of the matter is simple - there are no Eagle creditors...only AMR creditors. So if the judge sees that it is in the best interest of the creditors to reject the Eagle contract to reduce the costs at AMR and make AMR more profitable, guess what is going to happen?

    Also, if Eagle operates like most other regionals do, they pass through all the fuel costs to the parent company. Hence, making most regionals profitable while the parent company is losing money. It is all just fancy accounting but in the end they are both losing money.
  4. Jafari RastaMan Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Mar 14, 2012
    Message Count:
    55
    Likes Received:
    13
    How did you deal with them?
  5. BrewMaster Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Message Count:
    2,046
    Likes Received:
    80
    You forgot VCV!
  6. Autothrust Blue Conveying multiple attitudes

    Member Since:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Message Count:
    7,642
    Likes Received:
    1,306
    And FAT.
  7. MikeD Administrator

    Member Since:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Message Count:
    29,085
    Likes Received:
    1,730
    What's wrong with the former George AFB? It's a cool place.
  8. MQAAord Scheherazade

    Member Since:
    Jun 1, 2003
    Message Count:
    19,184
    Likes Received:
    969
    SAW! The former air base up in Marquette :)

    I spent a LOT of time up there, at the old MQT airport and at SAW.
  9. scooter2525 Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 4, 2008
    Message Count:
    6,390
    Likes Received:
    917
    They do cop training there. And have driven remote control (full size) cars.
  10. MikeD Administrator

    Member Since:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Message Count:
    29,085
    Likes Received:
    1,730
    I haven't been on the ground there since it was the primary base for USAF F-4E and F-4G training and operations, along with an OV-10A squadron based there.
  11. amorris311 Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 22, 2006
    Message Count:
    3,947
    Likes Received:
    306
    @MikeD showing your age! :)
  12. scooter2525 Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 4, 2008
    Message Count:
    6,390
    Likes Received:
    917
    Used to fly over it daily. The housing quarters are falling apart and look terrible. The airport has random civ/mil traffic regularly.
  13. Firebird2XC Who Dares, Wins.

    Member Since:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Message Count:
    9,056
    Likes Received:
    137
    How do you know what a judge sees? Go rain on somebody else's parade. Kicking Eagle pilots when they're down isn't helping anyone. We all know the situation ain't exactly pretty. But we're not gonna sit here and stare at our shoes, either. Buzz off.
  14. kellwolf Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 17, 2003
    Message Count:
    21,369
    Likes Received:
    368
    Good luck, guys and gals. Give 'em hell, especially since we might be following you into bankruptcy in not too much longer. I'm sure our management guys are already paying attention to see what gets forced on Eagle. Then they'll take that and try to force more. It's inverse jacking up the house....
  15. Firebird2XC Who Dares, Wins.

    Member Since:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Message Count:
    9,056
    Likes Received:
    137
    Either way, give 'em hell. Screw them for FINALLY giving you a contract and then welching on the whole deal due to their horrendous mismanagement.

    It's time to send a message to managements that hide behind press release rhetoric and shady financial sheets to do their dirty work. The airline business is no place for cowards. To hell with them.
  16. BrewMaster Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Message Count:
    2,046
    Likes Received:
    80
    Nothing wrong with VCV. I've flown in there in many times and always get free lunch at Millionair! Last time I flew in, we landed a 206 with around 4 qts. and a bent pushrod. About another hour and we would have seized up. Love flying into VCV.
  17. ClearedToThe Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Message Count:
    287
    Likes Received:
    32
    You're right. Arguing on the internet is really going to help the Eagle pilots in this bankruptcy. I apologize for providing realistic and factual information in this thread.

    If you want to make personal attacks go post on APC on one of the gojet threads.
    RedBaron2000 and ATN_Pilot like this.
  18. BajtheJino Durk our durrr

    Member Since:
    Feb 12, 2007
    Message Count:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    92
    Roll over play dead? Line up like sheep when they start hiring in a few years and do it for less money? Oh, and keep paying union dues to an association that allows an industry that flies a few planes with very few seat differences for 20 different pay rates. Same plane, same seats, one union=same pay.
  19. ATN_Pilot Socialist Pig Member

    Member Since:
    Jun 14, 2005
    Message Count:
    11,899
    Likes Received:
    1,572
    Nice pipe dream from someone with zero experience in bargaining under the RLA.
  20. block30 Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 12, 2008
    Message Count:
    246
    Likes Received:
    37
    Doing what? Just curious...

Share This Page