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Situation in Brazil

Discussion in 'Expatriate Aviation' started by swisspilot, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. BCTAv8r Well-Known Member

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    Knowing people in the airline seems to be the only way to make it in. At least that's what I've heard from friends in Brazil who are applying and from those who are already in the airlines.
  2. willpilot Well-Known Member

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    whats the difference between Fo and second officer ??
  3. elmetal Well-Known Member

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    second office is basically the FE. it's used mostly on older planes that need 2 pilots and a flight engineer.

    I dont really see why they'd need a 2nd fo..
  4. willpilot Well-Known Member

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    I thought about that at first but, isn't gol and tam flying the new stuff ??
  5. swisspilot Well-Known Member

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    No

    The second officer here is a FO in training, usually low time pilot, you just fly portion of the flight....
  6. willpilot Well-Known Member

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    thanks for clearing that up swiss..:rawk:
  7. swisspilot Well-Known Member

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    No problem, I didn't had the time to scan the regualtion questions/answers yet, I ve been traveling around. I should be able to start on them this week....
  8. willpilot Well-Known Member

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    NO problem thanks bro ...
  9. BCTAv8r Well-Known Member

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    What airlines/airframes hire SOs in Brazil?
  10. swisspilot Well-Known Member

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    Passaredo and Azul

    Btw this is the way pilots were trained here in the past
  11. BCTAv8r Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Why would you need a SO in an EMB-190? How are they employed in the cockpit?
  12. swisspilot Well-Known Member

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    you fly portion of the flight, when you you have enough hours you start your FO training. It's just a way to put a 200/15ME hours pilot in the right seat...and make it work

    Most of this cadet programs around the world use this system (Gulfair, CP, Ethiad,...)
  13. BCTAv8r Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but those airlines you mentioned put SOs in their long-haul flights. How long are they making these Azul flights?:crazy:

    Not complaining though. I guess it's good that they are not letting pilots with such low hours go straight to an FO seat. It's funny that the listing online ask for "co-pilotos". Are FOs and SOs both considered "co-pilotos" in Brazil? If not, how are they differentiated?
  14. willpilot Well-Known Member

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    As far as getting my high school diploma translated can I get that done here or does it have to be done in brazil. If I could I wonder if I could send it to my uncke in brazil so he can do it for me. Does it have to be a special university or any university ?? thanks
  15. swisspilot Well-Known Member

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    No it has to be done by a Tradutor Publico Juramentado, really few of them that do American documents.

    Call This guy: Ricardo Dimas, 21 2539 8617 his office is in Botafogo, tell him you are a friend of Alessandro (Alex) Huber

    the price is fixed by the govt, 40 reais for each page (for an US Diploma is gonna be around 400 reais)

    It`s gonna take him few days, best thing is to send him a scanned copy by e-mail, and when you go to pick it up you take there the original to get it stamped. After that you need to take it to a cartorio (with your ID and CPF) and get each page recognized.

    Before you do all this your diploma has to be legalized at the Brazilian Consulate in the US (you can do this only in the US!).
    When it gets to Brazil you have to take it to Fullbright Institude, They have an office at the PUC University in Gavea Rio to get your school recognized.

    After all this you can do the translation and then take the document to the MEC (Ministero da Educacao).




    I`m done scanning the documents I just need to find a way to post them

    My Process ad ANAC is over they gave me a license...but it`s valid for 90days, this because MEC never recognized my Diploma. I went to a private school and the Brazilian Consulate does not want to legalize the document, because the Diploma I got is from a different country then the one the school was in.....I need to figure out what to do now

    MEC does not want to take the document without legalization, I tried to pay them off, nothing...I got kicked out by the security peoples...
  16. willpilot Well-Known Member

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    sent you a private message thanks
  17. MFT1Air Well-Known Member

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    I need to head south. . . soon, real soon!
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    Do you know what the situation is with TAM Swisspilot?

    I heard they are hiring at 1000 hours with a college degree is that correct?
  19. swisspilot Well-Known Member

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    correct
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    thanks

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