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I won't cross a picket line.

And you know that's not just BS coming from me, Steve.

So you'd let you family go homeless and starve?

-mini

I think there are a few people letting their imaginations run wild on worst case scenarios, and there's a few people still stuck on "well I'd just go work at mcdonalds" even though the first group is well past that scenario. So the two camps aren't even really discussing the same issue.

It's all academic anyways. In any remotely plausible situation you could, in fact, get a job somewhere (which makes it easy for some people to say "never" because they can keep looking tough while at the same time knowing the true "last choice" situation can almost never happen).

Plus it's the internet dude. I'm a 6 foot 4 Olympic powerlifting street fighting god.

I'm Chuck Norris. FTW :yup:

-mini

No, he, like many other people, would utilize the various other skills he has to provide for his family.

Two words: reading comprehension.

-mini

I've got no reading comp problems, and I'm not some internet tough guy. I'm 5'10" and 155 lbs. of pasty white dudeness.

I would not cross a picket line if my family was starving. In the unrealistic situation you're attempting to describe, there would be many more problems than simply being "forced to cross a picket line." At that point there's probably a damned near civil war going on over the horrid economic conditions occurring.

You'll find me in the streets with a shotgun at that point helping the revolution and defending my family, not crossing any picket lines.

I mean seriously where do you guys even come up with this stuff?

Correct. I don't quote the manual to anyone except the Chief Pilot should he ask why I denied them. To date, he hasn't asked.

You keep saying that, but the bottom line is YOU'LL CROSS A PICKET LINE. And there's a term for that.

No it isn't he has said repeatedly he'd scab. I'm just taking him at his word.

So, you'd scab. I'll take your word for it. I'm not calling you a scab, you're saying here, in public you'd scab.

No, I wouldn't cross the picket line. I'd put the wife to work. I'd manage to feed the family somehow, but I wouldn't scab.

But, I guess you're the expert on yourself. Down deep you'd cross. You've admitted it. Wow. Just wow.

I believe you. Why? Because you commuted across the country to work for a Union carrier when you could have worked for a non-Union airline in your hometown.

You're a man who lives his principles. And men like that won't cross a picket line under any circumstances.

Individuals without principles play the "I had to feed my family" card as a justification for scabbing.

No, of course not. They wouldn't. I'd do whatever necessary, but I won't cross a picket line. And to imagine there would be absolutely no work available after you sold everything for either you or your spouse is patently ridiculous.

But, you'd never go that far. You'd scab. You've said so. Again, I take you at your word.

For me, scabbing isn't an option.

Exactly. Skills everyone who is an airline pilot possesses. Face it, you can't earn the licenses and qualifications to get our job without having a lot on the ball.

That's why it mystifies me when pilots go to work for non-Union airlines or cross picket lines. There are plenty of ways to support the family out there that don't involve aviation. The bottom line is most pilots are too lazy to go out an get a 40 hour a week job. We're a bunch of spoiled kids and are unwilling to give up the cushy flight deck job even if we have to work for 35% below standard wages.

Some of us even lack the moral backbone to refuse to cross a picket line. "I had to feed my family." That's the scab's mantra. As demonstrated on this thread...

My reading comprehension is fine. You, Kell and Prag said you'd scab. Protestations aside ("IF there were no other jobs! Wah!"), you'd scab. You all said it. And that is the bottom line.

You are miles above Velo's reading abilities. At least you admit you'd watch Emily starve. Velo is still stuck on "I'd make my wife work" (i.e. the term "last resort" is beyond his level of understanding). But I don't think anyone expects to have conversations with Velo any more. He storms into threads, screams uncontrollably and damn near incomprehensibly from his soapbox, and some people walking by take the bait.

I honestly don't know what I'd do. But when the crap really hits the fan, my family > *. And * includes my career, velo's approval, and well, everything.

But you're right, it's silly, and we're talking about a situation that could only reasonably exist if the country was on the verge of revolution. I'll be marching down the street with you carrying my (what will by then be) illegal guns.

Viva le revolution!

Are we really discussing what we'd do if the impossible arrives and others are bashing what others would do if the impossible arrives?
Ironically if the impossible did arrive you wouldn't afford to have the internet so you wouldn't have to deal with reading this. There now the impossible sounds a little better.

You want impossible? Me discussing buying a gun! How's that for impossible.

communist....

Wife's in a wheelchair or bed ridden. What now? See where this is going? Sure, fine. If I'm down to my last, absolute choice. No one will hire me. My wife can't work. My kid's sick and needs medical attention, yeah, I'd cross the picket line. I'd swallow my pride and do it if it meant life or death for my family, but it would take THAT to get me to do it. If that makes me a scab, I hope to GOD I never have to humble myself to catch a ride on your jumpseat.

Saying you'd NEVER cross a picket line is nuts. People really shouldn't deal in absolutes, and Jtrain, you KNOW that.

:yeahthat:

That's deep, man.

-mini

And a free shower.
Wait, your are ruining my point. Shhh!

Ah, the Logan's Run situation. The world around is in crumbles, but the library in DC still remains standing.....and full of cats.

What did I miss?

I'm sure if I stated a position that John wouldn't approve of he would have corrected me. Yet, he did not do such a thing. Nevertheless, the possibility for me to miss something in my reading is possible. What exactly did I miss?

Minitour, Kell and Pprag want to scab. Stated that if they could go to Fantasy Island, they would ask Mr. Roark to transport them back to 1983 so they could cross the line at CAL. Velo's head is about to explode. Jtrain is seriously thinking of arming himself.

Those are the Cliff's notes.