Republic May Now Be Worse Than You Know Who...

brother husband. . .oh my.

I might be out by you by then. I just put my application into Northern Illinois.

The way I took what he was saying is that he would scab if that were the last and final option but for it to get to that point is almost impossible. I think he was saying that he would gladly work any other job if it meant he didn't have to cross a picket line. He was just saying that his family's well being comes before anything. Even our beloved pilot profession.

Do you think that bus drivers or dental assistants have message boards where they get on and rip on everyone who went to work for a certain company or because their management screwed some other company over or because they got their job too young and inexperienced? For some reason I don't think so. I think it may have something to do with the amount of days off we get combined with the alcohol.

:yeahthat:

That's what I got, too, but I guess some people only see what they want to see. If you're willing to work at Wal-Mart or McDonald's before crossing a picket line, well, the odds of actually having to cross that line are pretty slim since most restaurants are almost always hiring dishwashers.

DCI? Great. Now I'm gonna have start defending myself for not outright quitting, too.....

I guess that's the difference between Min, Pprag and me. I wouldn't cross a picket line to SHOP in a store undergoing a strike much less scab.

They would.

I just can't believe they both admitted it.

It would be interesting to watch your conversation with your kids about why they have to go live with your brother while you and your wife move into a homeless shelter. Or how you explain your principles to your wife who's chemotherapy can no longer be afforded because an extra 76 seat jet in on property.

Extreme cases, but that's all that min and pp were talking about. But if we're talking about the hypothetical extreme cases where every single option has been exhausted and you still throw your family under the bus out of loyalty to a union, then I question how honest you're being, and I sincerely hope you never have to make a choice harder than pounding your chest on the internet, and I'm glad I'm not a member of your family.

But like I said before, it's the internet, this is what boys do on the internet, everyone can ignore it and live a happy peaceful life if you want.

Absolutely.

-mini

Glad to see it came off the way it was intended to most.

-mini

That's the point, everyone. There are plenty of ways to support your family WITHOUT crossing a picket line. For me, its NEVER an option. Because there's alway pushing shopping carts at Albertson's.

HOWEVER, those who say they would cross if it was the last option have the kind of "flexible" morality that would allow them to cross WITHOUT going to the supermaket and getting a minimum wage job.

They're the kind of people who take substandard wage jobs. They're the kind of people who get infected with SJS and will do anything for that "jet upgrade".

The key is the mentality, "Yeah, I would scab if it was the last option." Funny, they never really go "lower" themselves to actually apply at McD's. They just say "F-U" and cross the picket line.

To me a picket line is a brick wall. To some others here, crossing is an option. This thread illustrates just how many people are really willing to scab. Why?

"I had to feed my family."

And as long as that option is available, you take it.

Wrong.

Wrong again.

Strike three...oooh...got him with a curveball on the outside corner.

Yep. Family first. I'm sure neither you nor any other pilot is going to help my family when medicine, food or shelter are necessary.

Just curious. How deep does your hatred of scabs run? Do you deny your own company pilots a jumpseat if they're on the list?

-mini

Hey, sport, you said you'd scab. Not me.

And, yes, we have two scabs. They don't ask for jumpseats.

I'm just curious, "pal". If they ask, are you denying them?

-mini

Absolutely. Section 115.E.2 of the ALPA admin manual says I can ask for a Union Card as additional identification. Since they don't have a card, they don't ride the jumpseat.

Is that plain enough for you? So go ahead and scab. There's another privilege you'll lose...the jumpseat.

Ah yes, hiding behind the "manual" again. Why not just nut up and tell them no because they're on the scab list? It's your jumpseat afterall....

Quite plain enough. Just not sure why you have to hide behind the manual when you're perfectly capable of just saying "no" of your own free will. That's the ITG syndrome, pops. You just don't have the backbone to say "no" just to say "no"...you need to be told how to run your plane from the manual.

If the day comes where there are no jobs to be had down at the local WalMart passing out smiley stickers or at the local Sheetz making MTO sandwiches, and I'm faced with crossing the picket line or letting my family starve I'm not going to be caring about a jumpseat. Family first. Period. Everyone else is a distant second.

-mini

In the scenarios everyone except you is evaluating this discussion on, I doubt a jumpseat (or your airline career) even shows up on the radar of what's important.

Velo
"However, YOU undercut 300 good jobs by 30% thereby dooming yourselves to a top career pay rate of $96 an hour. Hope you can put your kids through college on that. I guess you'd better downgrade your dreams a little."



---Owe... you also forgot....the beautiful vacation home in Lake Tahoe....ok keep on....

Oh, so you DID understand what he said.

That's a huge stretch.....unless you're a mind reader or a Gypsy with insane tarot reading talents, there's no way you can make that assumption about a person.

I'll say it right now. I'd scab if it were an absolute LAST resort. As in my unemployment is about to run out, we can't pay bills b/c of health issues and I can't get a job anywhere else, then I'd do it. To say "I'd never scab" is a bit unrealistic. There's always a slim chance (especially with today's unemployment rate) that you wouldn't be able to find something. If you, by some miracle, found yourself in that situation, you are HONESTLY saying you'd rather your family starve/die than cross a picket line?

Yes, he is. Amazing, isn't it?

-mini